oakiecokie said:
Santiago Street . said:
oakie
I'm just outlining one example of fans behaving in a less passionate manner than they did years ago.
Who said anything about "proper fans"
But does this extend to all supporters just because they can`t be arsed in standing to celebrate a goal ? Yes I agree that the whole idea of being passionate is on the decline,as I remember what it was like in the 1960/70`s,when I was a mere slip of a lad.The Kippax (of which I was regular) was fantastic way back then,but was that down to my teenage exuberance ?
Personally I dont think that TV has helped,as there is far too much shown,but thats for another topic.However with not travelling to away games and subsequently watching the games live,in my local,the atmosphere is great,mainly due to the fact that we have both lots of Scousers and Rags with the odd Villa and Gooner fan spouting out occasionally.
I`ve said it before mate,but us old `uns have been there,seen it,got the t-shirt etc,so
perhaps the problem lies with the youngsters who should try and create something.The Poznan certainly was a great help in creating something special.We need to find something new and different to create a better stadium feel.
Personally I didn`t think the atmosphere was as bad last night as people are saying.
Which is difficult when they are being brought up with live bands playing music in the city square 10 mins before kick off, and then walk into the stadium to listen to some dodgy singer singing 'bluemoon'.
Have the bands on earlier, and get the people in the stadium earlier. Reduce the price of beer in the ground and have people singing on the concourses.
The Poznan was great, and there is no reason why this can't be brought back (I know there have been numerous threads about this on here in the past), but it got everyone going and at least generated some sort of atmosphere.
Manchester music before the games and people in earlier. None of this NFL pre match entertainment (Which came from Cook). Have the entertainment at city square fair enough, but let it finish about 45 mins before the start of the game so fans can get in earlier.
Also, different kick off times do not help to suit TV, as people have other commitments (work etc) so this also contributes to a lack of atmosphere at times.