The Lack of Atmosphere

yayas trusty right foot said:
The atmosphere was terrible last night, i sit in East Stand 306 and it was silent..

Its not the stadium that effects the atmosphere, it is the fans..

They just dont get behind the team.
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I sit in 105 and it wasn't too bad. Maybe it's because I shout a lot. You should try it. Livens things up no end
 
paulchapo said:
......I forgot to add years ago we had fuck all to do but sing as the football wasn't worth watching so we made our own entertainment!
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agreed, this is why I supported city, it wasn't because Alan Ball had his team playing amazing football, to a 6 year old seeing the north stand singing "And we all love city..." was quite entertaining!
 
Dick wipes in yellow coats with showsec on the back. 2000 u****d fans stand against barriers in front of the k stand get told nothing by the club however our clubs administrators think its a good idea to badger our home fans and do /say nothing to the away fans. They need to have a good look at themselves as they keep harping on about a singing section and do everything to subdue people willing to sing.

Its funny they constantly email us questionnaires on how we can purchase more things off them but do not ask us what our feelings are towards security and the people they employ to do it.
 
foxy said:
paulchapo said:
......I forgot to add years ago we had fuck all to do but sing as the football wasn't worth watching so we made our own entertainment!
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agreed, this is why I supported city, it wasn't because Alan Ball had his team playing amazing football, to a 6 year old seeing the north stand singing "And we all love city..." was quite entertaining!
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It was great fun at times.I remember when we first did the ''Stand up if you love City'' and it went all around the ground.I remember the players from both sides used to look at us at times in disbelief wondering what we were on,singing and laughing as we were getting tonked!
 
Psychodelic said:
Maybe if the club stopped playing music at full volume through the pa until the point the ref blows for kick off you may get fans chanting and singing more. It completely drowns out the crowd which is most likely why people remain quiet nowadays. Why bother if you can't even hear yourself . Its absurd at the moment and is deafening. I can remember years ago, watching the Kippax fill up as a youngster. You used to get in that stand a good half hour before kick off. Even in the Platt Lane benches. By the time the team ran out the ground would be buzzing. All without a constant fucking din of deafening music or constant pa announcements. Drives me up the wall. And to be honest, I've always found Blue Moon to be such a bloody dirge anyway. Much preferred that Doves City jingle they used to play a few years back before the teams came out but I wish they'd calm it down with the music and let the atmosphere develop naturally. Let's face it we have big games on a regular basis now and last night could've been like a derby atmosphere or even like Hamburg UEFA cup match if that infernal pa was turned off other than announcing the teams. I appreciate you're gonna play music or show a few recent goals or interviews on the scoreboard screens but not up to the point of kick off, it just completely nullifies any thought of joining in a chant or sing song if you just can't hear yourselves. That's my take on the atmosphere thing anyway. Mind you, its most likely the same at quite a lot of big grounds these days.
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Exact a f***ing mundo!

Not long before kick off peolple in 111(110) tried to get a chant going, only to be drowned out by the tannoy system. In the end the chant just died out and People gave up and waited until the tannoy went silent.

I stand corrected, feel free, but wasn't the announcer reading out the City team while the teams were waiting to kick off?

One more thing that really get's on my tits from a personal point of view. Fans watching the goal replays on the big screen.

Goal>celebrate>chants.(past)

Goal>celebrate>turn around/pause/watch goal replay> chants?(present)

It's like watching a group of..........
[bigimg]http://rateeveryanimal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/meerkat-family.jpg[/bigimg]

looking at the video screen after each goal.
 
Psychodelic said:
Maybe if the club stopped playing music at full volume through the pa until the point the ref blows for kick off you may get fans chanting and singing more. It completely drowns out the crowd which is most likely why people remain quiet nowadays. Why bother if you can't even hear yourself . Its absurd at the moment and is deafening. I can remember years ago, watching the Kippax fill up as a youngster. You used to get in that stand a good half hour before kick off. Even in the Platt Lane benches. By the time the team ran out the ground would be buzzing. All without a constant fucking din of deafening music or constant pa announcements. Drives me up the wall. And to be honest, I've always found Blue Moon to be such a bloody dirge anyway. Much preferred that Doves City jingle they used to play a few years back before the teams came out but I wish they'd calm it down with the music and let the atmosphere develop naturally. Let's face it we have big games on a regular basis now and last night could've been like a derby atmosphere or even like Hamburg UEFA cup match if that infernal pa was turned off other than announcing the teams. I appreciate you're gonna play music or show a few recent goals or interviews on the scoreboard screens but not up to the point of kick off, it just completely nullifies any thought of joining in a chant or sing song if you just can't hear yourselves. That's my take on the atmosphere thing anyway. Mind you, its most likely the same at quite a lot of big grounds these days.
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Brilliant post. You cant make people sing but you can help set the right conditions. Their just isn't any build up or buzz in the stands before games anymore.
 
I remember a few games back in the day when you could hear the singing coming from the concourses before the game but yeah they feck it all up now with shite music and the knob with a microphone, the people they have singing bluemoon is just cringe.
 
Psychodelic said:
Maybe if the club stopped playing music at full volume through the pa until the point the ref blows for kick off you may get fans chanting and singing more. It completely drowns out the crowd which is most likely why people remain quiet nowadays. Why bother if you can't even hear yourself . Its absurd at the moment and is deafening. I can remember years ago, watching the Kippax fill up as a youngster. You used to get in that stand a good half hour before kick off. Even in the Platt Lane benches. By the time the team ran out the ground would be buzzing. All without a constant fucking din of deafening music or constant pa announcements. Drives me up the wall. And to be honest, I've always found Blue Moon to be such a bloody dirge anyway. Much preferred that Doves City jingle they used to play a few years back before the teams came out but I wish they'd calm it down with the music and let the atmosphere develop naturally. Let's face it we have big games on a regular basis now and last night could've been like a derby atmosphere or even like Hamburg UEFA cup match if that infernal pa was turned off other than announcing the teams. I appreciate you're gonna play music or show a few recent goals or interviews on the scoreboard screens but not up to the point of kick off, it just completely nullifies any thought of joining in a chant or sing song if you just can't hear yourselves. That's my take on the atmosphere thing anyway. Mind you, its most likely the same at quite a lot of big grounds these days.
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Exact a f***ing mundo!

Not long before kick off peolple in 111(110) tried to get a chant going, only to be drowned out by the tannoy system. In the end the chant just died out and People gave up and waited until the tannoy went silent.

I stand corrected, feel free, but wasn't the announcer reading out the City team while the teams were waiting to kick off?

One more thing that really get's on my tits from a personal point of view. Fans watching the goal replays on the big screen.

Goal>celebrate>chants.(past)

Goal>celebrate>turn around/pause/watch goal replay> chants?(present)

It's like watching a group of..........
[bigimg]http://rateeveryanimal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/meerkat-family.jpg[/bigimg]

looking at the video screen after each goal.
 
I Live In A Blue House said:
oakiecokie said:
guvnors son mcfc said:
I thought the south stand and singing corner were pretty loud last night. I sit in east 104 and it is shocking , truly shocking, maybe 30 making any effort in blocks 102 and 104 put together .

The club should just set up a "cant be arsed making any noise except on derby day" section and stick them on the third tiers.

I'm 45 so not sure if that is middle aged but I make a decent effort and will be just as noisy and passionate at 65.

Not having a go at any blues but a noisy hostile atmosphere can make a big difference to unsettling the opposition and especially in the big games .

If you sit there and choose to just watch and do not appeal for corners , free kicks then that is fine, but you are not doing your bit.

If you leave with 5 minutes to go or when the board went up for 3 minutes at 1-0 down in a game of such magnitude then fine again , but the team really need EVERY one of you at that time, so again you are not supporting the team.

Lots of tourists last night from lots of different nationalities and JCL's, again we need these new fans but if you are reading this then you are welcome to support our great club but add some value add some passion, don't just sit there taking photos of each other whilst waving your own national flags. They are not the colours of Man City , support City ! Do not turn our club into Old Fucking Trafford !!

We all come on here and slag certain players, but we have our roles to play too.

Attending is great but I really don't get how so many can sit on their hands, never sing or shout ( unless the team is winning by a good score ) or against United when everyone seem to always find their voices ?????

The ones that left early last night, well only they can answer that one but I can only suggest that they are half arsed about the outcome. We were pushing like mad for an equalizer how the fuck can you leave ?
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Ah the usual "I`m a real fan because I stayed until 9.56 pm" !
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Typical sarcastic remark!
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Get to bed sonny before your Mum belts yer one.
 
It has nothing to do with where people are sat within the stadium or the pre-match entertainment. You go to any PL football stadium in the country, have a look at the people sitting in the seats. The majority of them are middle aged men. FACT.

All these Youtube clips of Dortmund fans bouncing up and down for 90 mins, you'd be lucky to find one of them over 30 years old. Same with Poznan and Aris, all young boys on a jolly. Most away fans are made up of these types. Which is why they outsing us on a regular basis. And the bloke with his guitar doesn't seem to put them off?

Anyone who thinks they can organize or encourage middle aged men (most of whom are stone cold sober, just finished a days graft, and are driving home after the match) to bounce up and down and sing for 90 mins, well it's not gonna happen. And you can create as many fan groups as you want, but you cannot ignore the fact that the majority of people who can afford to attend football matches in this day and age have grey hair. This is the reality of football in England, the only way to change it is to bring back standing and cheap access to games where young lads can form a majority, like we did in the 80's and 90's.

Currently, I have 2 sixty odd year old women to my right. And on the otherside is my Dad who is 64. If you wanna question the lack of atmosphere, have a look around, it's blindingly obvious.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya-brJrPab4[/youtube]
 
alfabianchi said:
It has nothing to do with where people are sat within the stadium or the pre-match entertainment. You go to any PL football stadium in the country, have a look at the people sitting in the seats. The majority of them are middle aged men. FACT.

All these Youtube clips of Dortmund fans bouncing up and down for 90 mins, you'd be lucky to find one of them over 30 years old. Same with Poznan and Aris, all young boys on a jolly. Most away fans are made up of these types. Which is why they outsing us on a regular basis. And the bloke with his guitar doesn't seem to put them off?

Anyone who thinks they can organize or encourage middle aged men (most of whom are stone cold sober, just finished a days graft, and are driving home after the match) to bounce up and down and sing for 90 mins, well it's not gonna happen. And you can create as many fan groups as you want, but you cannot ignore the fact that the majority of people who can afford to attend football matches in this day and age have grey hair. This is the reality of football in England, the only way to change it is to bring back standing and cheap access to games where young lads can form a majority, like we did in the 80's and 90's.

Currently, I have 2 sixty odd year old women to my right. And on the otherside is my Dad who is 64. If you wanna question the lack of atmosphere, have a look around, it's blindingly obvious.
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I'm sure I've read this before somewhere
 
alfabianchi said:
It has nothing to do with where people are sat within the stadium or the pre-match entertainment. You go to any PL football stadium in the country, have a look at the people sitting in the seats. The majority of them are middle aged men. FACT.

All these Youtube clips of Dortmund fans bouncing up and down for 90 mins, you'd be lucky to find one of them over 30 years old. Same with Poznan and Aris, all young boys on a jolly. Most away fans are made up of these types. Which is why they outsing us on a regular basis. And the bloke with his guitar doesn't seem to put them off?

Anyone who thinks they can organize or encourage middle aged men (most of whom are stone cold sober, just finished a days graft, and are driving home after the match) to bounce up and down and sing for 90 mins, well it's not gonna happen. And you can create as many fan groups as you want, but you cannot ignore the fact that the majority of people who can afford to attend football matches in this day and age have grey hair. This is the reality of football in England, the only way to change it is to bring back standing and cheap access to games where young lads can form a majority, like we did in the 80's and 90's.

Currently, I have 2 sixty odd year old women to my right. And on the otherside is my Dad who is 64. If you wanna question the lack of atmosphere, have a look around, it's blindingly obvious.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya-brJrPab4[/youtube]
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Two completely different attitudes to watching football. Ours show no emotion just sitting there like cardboard cut outs.
 
alfabianchi said:
It has nothing to do with where people are sat within the stadium or the pre-match entertainment. You go to any PL football stadium in the country, have a look at the people sitting in the seats. The majority of them are middle aged men. FACT.

All these Youtube clips of Dortmund fans bouncing up and down for 90 mins, you'd be lucky to find one of them over 30 years old. Same with Poznan and Aris, all young boys on a jolly. Most away fans are made up of these types. Which is why they outsing us on a regular basis. And the bloke with his guitar doesn't seem to put them off?

Anyone who thinks they can organize or encourage middle aged men (most of whom are stone cold sober, just finished a days graft, and are driving home after the match) to bounce up and down and sing for 90 mins, well it's not gonna happen. And you can create as many fan groups as you want, but you cannot ignore the fact that the majority of people who can afford to attend football matches in this day and age have grey hair. This is the reality of football in England, the only way to change it is to bring back standing and cheap access to games where young lads can form a majority, like we did in the 80's and 90's.

Currently, I have 2 sixty odd year old women to my right. And on the otherside is my Dad who is 64. If you wanna question the lack of atmosphere, have a look around, it's blindingly obvious.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya-brJrPab4[/youtube]
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Are you suggesting that its us old cunts who are spoiling the atmosphere that apparently doesn`t exist ? ;)
 
alfabianchi said:
It has nothing to do with where people are sat within the stadium or the pre-match entertainment. You go to any PL football stadium in the country, have a look at the people sitting in the seats. The majority of them are middle aged men. FACT.

All these Youtube clips of Dortmund fans bouncing up and down for 90 mins, you'd be lucky to find one of them over 30 years old. Same with Poznan and Aris, all young boys on a jolly. Most away fans are made up of these types. Which is why they outsing us on a regular basis. And the bloke with his guitar doesn't seem to put them off?

Anyone who thinks they can organize or encourage middle aged men (most of whom are stone cold sober, just finished a days graft, and are driving home after the match) to bounce up and down and sing for 90 mins, well it's not gonna happen. And you can create as many fan groups as you want, but you cannot ignore the fact that the majority of people who can afford to attend football matches in this day and age have grey hair. This is the reality of football in England, the only way to change it is to bring back standing and cheap access to games where young lads can form a majority, like we did in the 80's and 90's.

Currently, I have 2 sixty odd year old women to my right. And on the otherside is my Dad who is 64. If you wanna question the lack of atmosphere, have a look around, it's blindingly obvious.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya-brJrPab4[/youtube]
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I'm a middle age Man I have grey hair but still sing my heart out and bounce around a bit in 212 right next to the aways.
 
alfabianchi said:
It has nothing to do with where people are sat within the stadium or the pre-match entertainment. You go to any PL football stadium in the country, have a look at the people sitting in the seats. The majority of them are middle aged men. FACT.

All these Youtube clips of Dortmund fans bouncing up and down for 90 mins, you'd be lucky to find one of them over 30 years old. Same with Poznan and Aris, all young boys on a jolly. Most away fans are made up of these types. Which is why they outsing us on a regular basis. And the bloke with his guitar doesn't seem to put them off?

Anyone who thinks they can organize or encourage middle aged men (most of whom are stone cold sober, just finished a days graft, and are driving home after the match) to bounce up and down and sing for 90 mins, well it's not gonna happen. And you can create as many fan groups as you want, but you cannot ignore the fact that the majority of people who can afford to attend football matches in this day and age have grey hair. This is the reality of football in England, the only way to change it is to bring back standing and cheap access to games where young lads can form a majority, like we did in the 80's and 90's.

Currently, I have 2 sixty odd year old women to my right. And on the otherside is my Dad who is 64. If you wanna question the lack of atmosphere, have a look around, it's blindingly obvious.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya-brJrPab4[/youtube]
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I too had a look around on Monday and the whole crowd round us have changed from the last 3 or 4 decades. That's why there's no atmosphere, the hardcore working class have been driven away and most fans now just sit there expecting to be entertained for our money and wait for the players to create the atmosphere by scoring and winning. Sad really but that's the reality of 90% of our home games now and it will not change.
 
This isn't a new thing - I remember plenty of games at Maine rd, particularly at night, when all you could hear was the players shouting - the atmosphere obviously cranked up for big games or if the events of the game generated it. The "the best team in all the land" song was started by 3 or 4 pissed up blokes in the kippax - nobody else joining in Just 3 or 4 people singing with the rest of the kippax quiet - bit like the bloke in 154? with the nasri song. So don't think things have changed, because they haven't

We're not in Greece or Italy or wherever - we're in fckin Manchester with the rain, the smiths and adie mike - drums and singalongs would have been shunned 30 years ago where the majority could just about be roused for a "city, city" or a Munich song - so it's not new, if you want a decent atmosphere - go to an away game
 
bored at work said:
This isn't a new thing - I remember plenty of games at Maine rd, particularly at night, when all you could hear was the players shouting - the atmosphere obviously cranked up for big games or if the events of the game generated it. The "the best team in all the land" song was started by 3 or 4 pissed up blokes in the kippax - nobody else joining in Just 3 or 4 people singing with the rest of the kippax quiet - bit like the bloke in 154? with the nasri song. So don't think things have changed, because they haven't

We're not in Greece or Italy or wherever - we're in fckin Manchester with the rain, the smiths and adie mike - drums and singalongs would have been shunned 30 years ago where the majority could just about be roused for a "city, city" or a Munich song - so it's not new, if you want a decent atmosphere - go to an away game
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Exactly!

Too many people on here just want it all yesterday.

They want the best team.
They want the best atmosphere.
They want the best stadium.
They want the best press coverage.
They want the most money.
They want the biggest transfers.
They want the cheapest Season Tickets.
They want the best food.
They want the cheapest food.
They want the most goals.
They want the cheapest beer.

With regard to atmosphere, and you will need to think about this one people, ..... If you can hear it is quiet, it is because your doing fuck all singing yourself.

Oh yes, .. I've just remembered another one,

They want others to create their atmosphere rather than do it themselves.

In short, if you put as much effort into making noise as you do about moaning about silence then your ears would be bleeding!
 
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