The Michael Oliver Penalty Thread

Well, if we're going to go through a rough period I'd rather it was this early in the season and not towards the business end.

We can only hope that come April/May (when we are lifting the Prem trophy!) we will look back at this period and recognise it for the minor setback we all hope it is.
Hardly a setback. I have filed Sunday as a total fuckin' three-pen fluke. I won't say it ain't gonna happen again, but I'd stick with fluke. Possibly a constant recurring fluke!
 
To be fair - all three pens were pens - they were “soft” in the sense the leicester players made the upmost of the contact but there was contact nethertheless

Come on, for two of them the other player ran into them and flung themselves to floor. Some teams get those week in week out, I just can’t understand how the refs are so fooled by it. United, Liverpool and Leicester seem to be doing it loads. There was a game last season where Martial ran into the box and flung himself to floor, the ref didn’t give it, he then got up and came out of the box, United won the ball back and attacked down the flank and he ran into the box and did the exact same thing. Literally two dives in less than a minute, the second one was given as a penalty. In slow motion the defender put his arm on his shoulder. So yeah there was minimal contact but enough to send him flying to the ground, no chance. It was the same on Sunday, felt a slight bit of contact and let there legs buckle, in each occasion the attacker instigated the penalty. Then you have this tactic where the striker kicks the defenders leg and goes flying over. The game has become riddled with cheats, divers and penalty instigators. It’s obvious to some teams they will get the penalties and the fouls given to them if they go to the floor so they do it week in week out.
 
That’s very funny

Remember Rodri against Spurs in the 2-2 draw last season? Why didn’t the same ref give that one then? Has there been some change in the rules that means blatant holding wasn’t a penalty last season but this season a nudge in the back is?


You could have saved yourself the trouble of crafting that reply and just posted

Bollocks !!!
 
Come on, for two of them the other player ran into them and flung themselves to floor. Some teams get those week in week out, I just can’t understand how the refs are so fooled by it. United, Liverpool and Leicester seem to be doing it loads. There was a game last season where Martial ran into the box and flung himself to floor, the ref didn’t give it, he then got up and came out of the box, United won the ball back and attacked down the flank and he ran into the box and did the exact same thing. Literally two dives in less than a minute, the second one was given as a penalty. In slow motion the defender put his arm on his shoulder. So yeah there was minimal contact but enough to send him flying to the ground, no chance. It was the same on Sunday, felt a slight bit of contact and let there legs buckle, in each occasion the attacker instigated the penalty. Then you have this tactic where the striker kicks the defenders leg and goes flying over. The game has become riddled with cheats, divers and penalty instigators. It’s obvious to some teams they will get the penalties and the fouls given to them if they go to the floor so they do it week in week out.

When United play Leicester it will be like a 90-minute penalty shootout.
 
I have finally managed to watch the highlights. First pen is soft but it is just about although given that VAR overuled the penalty Brighton were given it goes into that category. Second one Vardy appeared to stick his leg in front of Garcia and then fell over - shades of Mane last season. Again referring to the Brighton overturned penalty we were told it was because the forward instigated the penalty. Strange how this one therefore wasn't also overturned. Third one and I must have watched this a dozen times, is because Maddison deliberately tripped himself up. I just cannot see any touch by Mendy that would have made him fall the way he did. Said at at the time when watching the game live and I still stand by it. What is VAR there for if it doesn't rule on decisions consistently.
The comparison with the Brighton penalty is what I immediately thought. It does appear that we play to a different set of rules.
 
I have finally managed to watch the highlights. First pen is soft but it is just about although given that VAR overuled the penalty Brighton were given it goes into that category. Second one Vardy appeared to stick his leg in front of Garcia and then fell over - shades of Mane last season. Again referring to the Brighton overturned penalty we were told it was because the forward instigated the penalty. Strange how this one therefore wasn't also overturned. Third one and I must have watched this a dozen times, is because Maddison deliberately tripped himself up. I just cannot see any touch by Mendy that would have made him fall the way he did. Said at at the time when watching the game live and I still stand by it. What is VAR there for if it doesn't rule on decisions consistently.
The comparison with the Brighton penalty is what I immediately thought. It does appear that we play to a different set of rules.
We definitely do,I am amazed some of our fans saying all three were penalties. They absolutely were not if we go by what happened to Brighton.
 
We definitely do,I am amazed some of our fans saying all three were penalties. They absolutely were not if we go by what happened to Brighton.

It's easy to be fooled they were penalties as players these days are well practiced at making contact and hitting the ground.

Except Sterling of course.
 

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