The official EDS and academy thread 2011/12

We missed a Razak like player tonight, they carved us open every time. Think Rekik is still finding his feet as he can be great one game and ropey the next.

I thought Suarez and Roman linked up well tonight, but we pushed too high up which left the hole in the middle and Celtic slaughtered us from that space (like with the third and fourth goals).

Henshall was a lonely figure tonight and we didn't utilise him at all, same happened against Barca. We seem to go through the middle a hell of a lot at this level which is understandable with Roman and Suarez in the same side, but I think if we had a wide option we need to bring him into the game too for some variety.
 
mancmackem said:
We missed a Razak like player tonight, they carved us open every time. Think Rekik is still finding his feet as he can be great one game and ropey the next.

I thought Suarez and Roman linked up well tonight, but we pushed too high up which left the hole in the middle and Celtic slaughtered us from that space (like with the third and fourth goals).

Henshall was a lonely figure tonight and we didn't utilise him at all, same happened against Barca. We seem to go through the middle a hell of a lot at this level which is understandable with Roman and Suarez in the same side, but I think if we had a wide option we need to bring him into the game too for some variety.


Henshall is a one trick pony and the trick ( his pace) isn't that good when he comes up against a quick defender.I agree we pushed too high up though which meant our front players were really tightly marked and couldnt be found with a pass.That and the poor movement meant we were totally ineffective most of the time.

Suarez and Roman linked up better in the 2nd half but apart from a great goal to make it 2.3 it didnt amount to much.
 
I think that the Andy Walsh and co. are making a pigs ear of the U18/EDS setup. They've pulled out of the Reserve League where they can get the young lads regular competitive games and yet throw a group together from both sets (U18 and EDS) for the NextGen series when they don't play together any other time. All the weaknesses were there for all to see tonight.

Get back in the Reserve League and get the likes of Helan, Roman, Suarez, Bunn, and Razak etc playing regularly. What's going to happen to likes off Assulin as he's too old for the NextGen series and therefore there are no teams that he can get regular football to possibly have any chance of getting into the first team squad!

Sort it out.
 
Couldn't agree more ^^^^

It's a marketing ploy at the expense of the young players' development.
 
Well in his defence I think it would be hard to balance NextGen, EDS/reserve league, and U18s this year because we have moved on many of our older youngsters and the NextGen team is heavily made up of U18s. I don't think if we could make up two teams for the U18s and reserves right now unless we started putting players like Bridge and Onuoha in as other clubs do with older players.

The over-age players at the club who would be reserve league only and aren't out on loan are I believe Bunn, Assulin, Roman, Cunningham, Razak (but Mancini keeps him with first team), Tse, Scapuzzi, Veseli, Mancini, and Chantler. The rest would be playing for the U18s with the possible exception of Rekik and Suarez (Meppen-Walter too maybe?) who might both be permanently promoted to the reserve team but that still isn't enough players to make a reserve squad. And we have Wabara, Ibrahim, Abu, Helan, McGivern, and others out on loan which is probably better for their development.
 
LoveCity said:
Well in his defence I think it would be hard to balance NextGen, EDS/reserve league, and U18s this year because we have moved on many of our older youngsters and the NextGen team is heavily made up of U18s. I don't think if we could make up two teams for the U18s and reserves right now unless we started putting players like Bridge and Onuoha in as other clubs do with older players.

The over-age players at the club who would be reserve league only and aren't out on loan are I believe Bunn, Assulin, Roman, Cunningham, Razak (but Mancini keeps him with first team), Tse, Scapuzzi, Veseli, Mancini, and Chantler. The rest would be playing for the U18s with the possible exception of Rekik and Suarez (Meppen-Walter too maybe?) who might both be permanently promoted to the reserve team but that still isn't enough players to make a reserve squad. And we have Wabara, Ibrahim, Abu, Helan, McGivern, and others out on loan which is probably better for their development.


I wish I fully understood the decisions taken as it does seem a few are getting little playing time.But the reason for poor performances like tonight isn't because they don't play/train together as basically most of them do.

The Assulin one baffles me. He has a lot of quality and for him to not be playing at some level just seems wrong.Maybe something will happen very soon and similarly for Cunningham and Chantler who could easily do a job for a club somewhere.
 
Nelly's Left Foot said:
The Assulin one baffles me. He has a lot of quality and for him to not be playing at some level just seems wrong.

Every time I've seen Assulin he has looked quality when he has the ball, against the England U21s opposite a lot of Premier League players he got the ball and set up a goal - he was quiet because they bypassed midfield a lot with long balls but when he got the ball he had undoubted quality. His main flaw is that maybe he doesn't get himself involved enough yet the same can be said about Adam Johnson at first team level.

I trust Mancini but am also baffled on this - he didn't even get in the Carling Cup matchday squad yet 17-year-old Suarez did. Now Suarez is going to be really special but Assulin at this moment in time is more ready for senior level football. We had three or four clubs interested in loaning Assulin yet here he is still, something doesn't make sense to keep him here playing no football if Mancini doesn't want to use him.
 
I've just had my match report for the Celtic game published on The Bleacher Report is anyone fancies a look:

<a class="postlink" href="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/899114-manchester-city-brushed-aside-by-celtic-in-nextgen-series" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8991 ... gen-series</a>
 
Yeah,

Didnt turn up last night, thought the passing was awful. How many passes does it take to switch a ball? maybe had something to do with the wind.

At time it was like watching rugby, 4,5 passes to get the ball switched.

Like what has been said, get bk to the reserve setup.
 
Heard something about a reserve game today behind closed doors against Carlisle but don't know where or exactly when!

Anyone know anything?
 

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