The only way to get around Platini's anti-City stance

[carloranieri]

The reason that Platini has got no chance of getting this through is because if it did go ahead it will adversely affect the games two main stakeholders, the players and the fans.

Insisting on a max 60% (of turnover) expenditure is effectively a wage cap by another name. I can't see the world superstars being too keen on a paycut "for the good of the game". Most players may be stupid but their agents aren't and they will be well aware of the implications of this.

As for the fans - this great idea actually encourages clubs to fleece them as much as they can. Nice one Michel great visionary you are not!

Makes sense doesn't it. Get bought by a yank who saddles the club with 100s of millions of debt and hikes up ticket prices and thats good for football because its sustainable. Get bought by one of the richest men in the world who invests his own money in making the club great and also does other clubs some good by giving them a fistfull of cash for their best players. (what would have happened to us without the £21m Roman gave us for Shauny?) and thats ruining the game.

 

[Challenger1978]

Out of interest cobwebcat


1. where are you getting the information about the ECJ/Commission supporting this? Care to share a link?

2. likewise, where is the information about plugging these "loopholes"? Are you presuming this is the case because i've read nothing of the sort.

3. from what I have read the proposals it's about breaking even. of course the bigger clubs will be able to spend more due to a higher turnover but they still need to break even. saying it's not about debt is not really accurate. It's almost all about debts. The sticking point is that sugar daddies are in effect classed as debt/living beyond your natural means to Platini and co.

I'm of the belief that this is simply unworkable and will never be implemented. Who will monitor the finances of every single club in European football? And under what remit? How do you establish a fair and equal baseline when there are 50+ different countries, laws and economies at play?

1. I read it but I admit I can't remember where!

2. As above I'm afraid. It will take UEFA 9 months to make it "fiddle proof"

3. The phrase breaking even is used a lot granted but the actual idea is only to limit spending to around 60% of turnover. A club can have as much debt as they like which is why United Chief Exec and Chelsea are in favour (BBC)

I hope it is unworkable to and if it is brought in we ignore it!

You really are a drama queen, calm the fuck down will you. I'm not a financial expert or out but i can think of hundreds of different fiddles that couldn't be stoped. Considering the Sheik and his advisors are finanical experts i'm sure they can think of better fiddles than i can.

Heres one example for you that twatini no not matter what he tries could not stop. The club buys a piece of worthless land ;-) ;-). The club discovers oil on that land ;-) ;-). The club sells land for a massive chunk of cash which it deposites in to a high intrest bank account. The club then uses the intrest to run the club at a profit.

Twatini wouldn't be able to do a dam thing about that either because all the big clubs have assets like land and bank accounts earning money. So if he tried to go after city for the above fiddle he would be slitting the throats of all the big European clubs. If that turns out to be the case the CL will becoume compeltly irrelivant as all the big European clubs will just set up there own league.

Heres another one for you as well that no ones picked up on. Do you think the PFA and all the players agents are going to sit back and take this shit. Because theres only one way players wages are going to go with this half arsed scheme and it sure as hell aint up.

 

[JWP1926]

you are aloud bank loans, get our owner to buy another bank and lend out a massive loan to the club, simples, but fifa also have to realise that tickets for matches now will be expensive and being in a recession won't help, so fifa won't activate these plans while we are in an economic crisis, ticket sales will go down alot due to teams increasing prices because they want a bigger turnover to buy players, its a dis-economy of scale in truth, and it coull perhaps destroy football's reign over the world as the most followed sport, platini and co need to realise what they could be doing, no piont in having fairer, more equal football if there is nobody there to watch it, teams like chelsea have no chance on building stanford bridge so i don't know why abromavic is happy with these 'plans' at 42,000 that sort of capacity won't genarate alot of turnover for a club wanting to sing world class players, plus you could just get rich firends of our owners to visit the hosptality and make sure it costs abot 8 million to vist and watch our team each visit but make sure our owners give the money back in a secretive manner, there are many ways of getting around this and fifa won't be able to do anything!

 

[britespark]

So many flaws in the reasoning behind this idea it will not work.
60,000 slovaks paying 50p each admission against 40,000 chelsea fans spending £80 each a game, makes no sense.
It just perpetuates the long standing position of the big 16. Although city are not that badly placed on a European scale, but ther is no way that we could compare with the gates acheived by the big two in Spain. Would the majority of clubs vote to maintain a loaded game against their own interests, or do they see themselves in hock to the largesse of Uefa?
Q)Would they reject a benefactor that generates millions of pounds in additional revenue?
A) No
Q) Does UEFA exist to look after Citys' interests?
A) No
Q) Does UEFA look after its chums?
A) Yes
Q) Would UEFA investigate Ronaldo, Messi or Rooney for simulation?
A) What do you think?

UEFA exists to promote its members and their interests and generate as much cash as they can. How ironic they get worried about the colour of money, if its not theirs. They see the influence that megarich new owners could have, to the detrement of the established big clubs and are now setting up barriers to protect them.

 

[bluefuture]

Man Utd chief David Gill is backing Platini's plans................."It's mainly the owners that asked us to do something - Roman Abramovich, (AC Milan's) Silvio Berlusconi, (Inter Milan's) Massimo Moratti. They do not want to fork out from their pockets any more," added Platini.
"I have told Mr Abramovich about this and he said nothing against it."

Quelle surprise!................they don't like it up em LOL

 

[Petetheblu]

I've got an Idea....How about putting Season tickets up to £5000 each or even more, don't stop reading yet let me explain.

First of all ADUG set up a legal loans department like Zebra just dealing with City loans, we all apply for our £5000 season ticket loan and automatically get approved. Then (the clever bit) ADUG give us back (not City) £4500 straight back with your new season ticket.

So thats 400000 X £5000 = £200,000,000 on the books. It's not illegal and it gives us plenty, everybodies happy!!!

 

[Ik.ben.blue]

put him in room and only feed him fish and chips for two years, then give him some salt and vinager a cup a tea and bread an butter

 

[Petetheblu]

put him in room and only feed him fish and chips for two years, then give him some salt and vinager a cup a tea and bread an butter

A MUG!!! ;)

 

[Gordyola]

Questions for you
What is counted as turnover?
How will the differences in exchange rates be catered for?
How will the differences in tickets prices between countries be calculated?
How will regional variations in tickets prices be calculated?

All the income raised from TV, gate receipts, sponsorship and prize money. Money that comes from sponsorship from anthing connected with our owners doesn't count.

Yet to be decided

Not really relevant it's all turnover.. the club charge what it likes.

As above.

So Etihad is not owned by ADUG therefore its sponsorship can count The fact it is run by another member of the family is just a coincidence

Well! M. Platini it needs deciding

Yes it is relevant as pointed out by another poster

As above

 

[SingBlue]

If we are romping to the League + 2 Cup treble every year with a squad of 22 quality players producing champagne football and banging a dozen a year past the Rags, who gives a phuck about the Chumps League anyway?

We can just do the same as we did last week, the winner of the Chumps League can play us in a "friendly" to determine which team is really the best team in all the world.