The Pandora Papers

[Mr Kobayashi]

Which bit’s not true?
Looks like you’re agreeing with me.

That it isn't corrupt because no laws were broken.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Care to back up this assertion with some facts?

No, not really.

I can't be arsed getting into a political argument, as always happens with these kind of posts.

 

[west didsblue]

That it isn't corrupt because no laws were broken.

Do you think Blair’s transaction was corrupt then?

 

[dave_blue12]

No, not really.

I can't be arsed getting into a political argument, as always happens with these kind of posts.

Okay that's fine.

I can only conclude that you don't actually know what you are talking about.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Do you think Blair’s transaction was corrupt then?

It doesn't appear to be, but it does appear to be "unfair" and is the sort of deal he was talking about when he called out the unfairness of there being a two-tier system for those with expensive lawyers and accountants etc.

Although most people don't purchase commercial property of that kind of value to use as offices.

 

[inbetween]

That it isn't corrupt because no laws were broken.

The idea that no laws have been broken is just stupid and naive. These revelations don't disclose crimes, they disclose potentially how entire crime enterprises are legally financed.

If a mafia boss launders his money via property and a legal offshore company then does that make his mafia enterprise legal? It absolutely doesn't however the fact he gets away with the offshore technicality is precisely why he does it. There's no reason to move offshore unless you're hiding something that is otherwise criminal here.

A lot on here will be chomping at the bit about tax avoiders but that honestly is the mildest thing to be found. We are talking here of the offshore money pots of some of the most bankrupt and corrupt in society, think the Pablo Escobars of this world.

 

[Blue Mist]

He claimed the last Labour PM was.

Who me ? I didn't claim anything. Media investigators named the war criminal and he has accepted he did not pay stamp duty by using an offshore company.

He has not offered to pay it back.

 

[Blue Mist]

Last night you claimed it was only Blair at fault - I said then Tories will soon surface - we are only at the beginning of the revelations - you keep sticking up for them

Eh ? You started the thread, presumably without any research. You were so confident that Tories would be named. You even accused the Mail of making up a story to deflect from it.
The only political name to be outed is the War Criminal, has a Conservative, Liberal green thingy been named yet ?

 

[bluethrunthru]

The idea that no laws have been broken is just stupid and naive. These revelations don't disclose crimes, they disclose potentially how entire crime enterprises are legally financed.

If a mafia boss launders his money via property and a legal offshore company then does that make his mafia enterprise legal? It absolutely doesn't however the fact he gets away with the offshore technicality is precisely why he does it. There's no reason to move offshore unless you're hiding something that is otherwise criminal here.

A lot on here will be chomping at the bit about tax avoiders but that honestly is the mildest thing to be found. We are talking here of the offshore money pots of some of the most bankrupt and corrupt in society, think the Pablo Escobars of this world.

as well as the crims there will be plenty of foreign heads of state who are laundering money through property in London - in doing so some may be also evading tax in their own countries depending on the rules there. This is something the Tories have repeatedly refused to properly investigate

 

[Blue Mist]

Where did he break the law?
He bought a company registered abroad that owned a UK property.
It might not have good optics but it doesn't make him corrupt unless laws were broken.

I meant he is corrupt not because of this deal, everything he does, before and after this deal. The man has the blood of thousands on his hands.