BillyShears said:moomba said:They were never going to score.
If that's the way you saw things, then there isn't really much else you can contribute to the thread as you disagree with the very fundamental points of the thread.
In terms of looking at a match objectively, I'd say that with just a touch more composure from Wigan on the break, they most certainly could and would have scored...
hgblue said:There's a lot of talk on here about tactics/managers/substitutions etc, and probably quite rightly so (discussion board and all that). The fact that the tactics change, the manager changes and we still end up playing the same way, strongly suggests to me that the players are the problem. Some of them simply aren't good enough, but I'm sure Mancini already knows this and has to work with what he's got. Bearing this in mind, the mans doing a decent job (apart from his handling of Robinho), and deserves the opportunity to bring in his own players in the summer (Mourinho apart). In the meantime, I'd suggest Mancini takes a leaf from the film Jimmy Grimble. To paraphrase 'Give it to Carlos, give it to Carlos'. Bellamy passes to adebayor who misses. 'Should have give it to bloody Carlos'.
moomba said:BillyShears said:If that's the way you saw things, then there isn't really much else you can contribute to the thread as you disagree with the very fundamental points of the thread.
In terms of looking at a match objectively, I'd say that with just a touch more composure from Wigan on the break, they most certainly could and would have scored...
Can't think of one genuine chance they had, sure they skied quite a few from decent positions, but I don't think there was many of those (if any) I would call genuine chances
Anyway, if all I can contribute to the thread is disagree with the basic points you've made then I guess there is a good reason to stay.
Didsbury Dave said:hgblue said:There's a lot of talk on here about tactics/managers/substitutions etc, and probably quite rightly so (discussion board and all that). The fact that the tactics change, the manager changes and we still end up playing the same way, strongly suggests to me that the players are the problem. Some of them simply aren't good enough, but I'm sure Mancini already knows this and has to work with what he's got. Bearing this in mind, the mans doing a decent job (apart from his handling of Robinho), and deserves the opportunity to bring in his own players in the summer (Mourinho apart). In the meantime, I'd suggest Mancini takes a leaf from the film Jimmy Grimble. To paraphrase 'Give it to Carlos, give it to Carlos'. Bellamy passes to adebayor who misses. 'Should have give it to bloody Carlos'.
There were three players on the park last night we aren't good enough, in my opinion: Toure, Zableta and Viera.
Zableta puts effort in and is worth retaining as a "utility" player but at right back he's too slow and he dives in too much.
The other two aren't up to it in my opinion.
hgblue said:Didsbury Dave said:There were three players on the park last night we aren't good enough, in my opinion: Toure, Zableta and Viera.
Zableta puts effort in and is worth retaining as a "utility" player but at right back he's too slow and he dives in too much.
The other two aren't up to it in my opinion.
I'll throw the names Garrido, De Jong (if we're playing 4-4-2) and SWP (on current form) into the mix.
m27 said:hgblue said:I'll throw the names Garrido, De Jong (if we're playing 4-4-2) and SWP (on current form) into the mix.
I'll second those additional three. Harsh on SWP I suppose as he IS good enough....just not at the moment, and De Jong has a role to play but NEVER (please God never) in a midfield pair.
Rammy Blue said:What gets me when everyone starts having a pop at the manager is what exactly were his options?
Didsbury Dave said:m27 said:I'll second those additional three. Harsh on SWP I suppose as he IS good enough....just not at the moment, and De Jong has a role to play but NEVER (please God never) in a midfield pair.
Garrido I agree with but the other two are good enough if used properly and playing well.
Didsbury Dave said:m27 said:I'll second those additional three. Harsh on SWP I suppose as he IS good enough....just not at the moment, and De Jong has a role to play but NEVER (please God never) in a midfield pair.
Garrido I agree with but the other two are good enough if used properly and playing well.
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Rammy Blue said:What gets me when everyone starts having a pop at the manager is what exactly were his options?
Richards for Zab at right back
Onuoha for Toure at centre half
Barry for Viera in central midfield.