The Pro Road Cycling Thread

[johnnytapia]

We know they (USP) were cheats, but Sky were just as dominant.
Did they dope or was it down to great preparations, that Wiggins, Froome, Thomas and Bernal won it?

Flumocil

 

[give it to gordon]

Agree with you and @johnnytapia but there are times when it crosses the line, when it goes too far, when the unreality breaches the barriers you keep in your mind, and I’m afraid that TT was one for me.

Yep in top level sport to beat the field by those margins is suspicious partially in such a short tt. If the tt was 50k or more that wouldnt be suspicious.
That's not forget that Pogacar didnt do a bad tt, he clearly went into the red to much to try and stay with Vingedaard. Pogacar clearly didnt recover from being in the red and lost loads of time the next day.
I hope Vingegdaard is clean. Even yesterday Vingegdaard seem scared of any potential Pogacar attack, which is abit surprising seeing as how much time Vingegdaard had take in the last few days.
Vingegdaard tactics were abit odd he knows he cant out sprint Pogacar and he wanted to stage win, so why didnt he attack earlier ? He must have been confident as he took 7 mins the other day.

 

[chesterbells]

We know they (USP) were cheats, but Sky were just as dominant.
Did they dope or was it down to great preparations, that Wiggins, Froome, Thomas and Bernal won it?

Dunno, but they maxxed out asthma medication treatment they used. I’m not sure it was rule breaking but it was bending them to the fullest extent.

 

[blueinsa]

Like others have rightly said, for an out and out mountain goat climber like Vingegaard to out TT some of the worlds best by a margin like that frankly stinks to high heavens.

His numbers on the day are just not believable in my opinion.

Also and sadly, another death of a young rider to report in the Tour of Austria after a crash whilst descending.

RIP Jacopo Venzo

 

[give it to gordon]

If Vingegdaard is clean than find but if not why didnt his team tell him to slow down abit as to not to raise suspicion.

Both sets of teams mates seem fairly even.

Yes Vingegdaard has won but for the first time in ages I have that nagging doubt that something isnt right.
The press/media arent scared to discuss it either.

We all know that liverpool will be running around like headless chickens this season. They have had their season of yet the football press/media ignore this suspicious pattern that the dippers have. They have had two bad years out of seven, it's a clear pattern.

 

[johnnytapia]

Dunno, but they maxxed out asthma medication treatment they used. I’m not sure it was rule breaking but it was bending them to the fullest extent.

Pushing the absolute legal limits. As told in....

 

[johnnytapia]

It was extremely rare to see Pog have “un jour sans” as the top riders just don’t suffer such days. It actually gave me some reassurance that he is/ was human after all.
The Tour is run at such a frenetic pace, no days off, no breakaways given 20/30 mins as in days of yore. Full gas, every day. I’d be asking for all the “help” I could get!

 

[chesterbells]

Pushing the absolute legal limits. As told in....
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Interesting that, didn’t realise he’d actually written a tell-all book himself. Isn’t he the doctor who was quite forgetful and had trouble making it to give evidence when called upon?
I might seek that out for a bit of summer reading.

 

[chesterbells]

It was extremely rare to see Pog have “un jour sans” as the top riders just don’t suffer such days. It actually gave me some reassurance that he is/ was human after all.
The Tour is run at such a frenetic pace, no days off, no breakaways given 20/30 mins as in days of yore. Full gas, every day. I’d be asking for all the “help” I could get!

Yes, if you combine the TT day and the day afterwards in the mountains, the Dane was just on a different planet.

The thing is, apparently Pog’s TT numbers weren’t that bad and matched his previous tour winning performance data (look at how he distanced WvA and the rest of the field). His only issue was that his rival was producing unbelievable numbers. It’s the knowledge of that which knocked the stuffing out of him, and made his body language look like a beaten man - because he know that’s what he was. That’s my take anyway.

 

[johnnytapia]

It’s an interesting read but it’s not a “tell all”.
He bamboozled himself with the Jiffy bag thing. I think he could, and should, have told the full story, the laptops, the flumocil, the ever-changing narrative from Sky/ Brailsford.