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The Pro Road Cycling Thread
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They remind me of Team Sky…Don’t know what industry Jumbo Visma are into but my guess is it’s the jiffy bag industry!
Better prepared than the rest. The way Vingegaard rode on the tt, it was clear from the get go, that he was going to win it.
Froome..Lol, oh he’s the strongest rider alright. By far. Remind you of anyone?
johnnytapia
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To enjoy pro cycling you have to enjoy what you’re watching and reconcile your mind to the fact that some (most) may not be on bread and water.
It was never clean. Ever.
It was never clean. Ever.
Trevor Morley's Tache
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I'm sure there are some competitors who ride clean, but those leading the pack are certainly under suspicion in EVERY race.To enjoy pro cycling you have to enjoy what you’re watching and reconcile your mind to the fact that some (most) may not be on bread and water.
It was never clean. Ever.
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Merckx: positiveI'm sure there are some competitors who ride clean, but those leading the pack are certainly under suspicion in EVERY race.
Hinault: positive
Coppi: positive
Simpson: positive
All failed tests in grand tours yet none are/ were stigmatised in the way Pantani , Armstrong etc were.
Wiggins , Jiffy bag.
The list is endless.
The only (grand tour / monument winning) rider I’ve ever thought was 100% clean was Lemond, a freak of nature.
But I still love watching it. You just have to park that suspicion to the back of your head.
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Agree with you and @johnnytapia but there are times when it crosses the line, when it goes too far, when the unreality breaches the barriers you keep in your mind, and I’m afraid that TT was one for me.I'm sure there are some competitors who ride clean, but those leading the pack are certainly under suspicion in EVERY race.
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US Postal more like.They remind me of Team Sky…
Better prepared than the rest. The way Vingegaard rode on the tt, it was clear from the get go, that he was going to win it.
Froome..
Trevor Morley's Tache
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Yeah. He was cleary streets ahead and it was more than just physicality and conditioning in my opinion.Agree with you and @johnnytapia but there are times when it crosses the line, when it goes too far, when the unreality breaches the barriers you keep in your mind, and I’m afraid that TT was one for me.
We know they (USP) were cheats, but Sky were just as dominant.US Postal more like.
Did they dope or was it down to great preparations, that Wiggins, Froome, Thomas and Bernal won it?
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An out and out climber (Vingegaard, Rasmussen, Pantani etc) annihilating the rest of the field in a TT is always a huge red flag for me.Agree with you and @johnnytapia but there are times when it crosses the line, when it goes too far, when the unreality breaches the barriers you keep in your mind, and I’m afraid that TT was one for me.
I was struck by Vingegaard’s interview two days ago “I’m definitely not taking anything that’s illegal.” I interpreted that, rightly or wrongly, that he’s taking stuff that’s either:
Legal - vitamin injections
Not yet been banned - something akin to Tramadol/ performance enhancing
Maybe there’s a new EPO out there, maybe they’re micro-dosing, maybe they’re on “pan y agua”.
It usually, eventually, comes out in the wash, a la Armstrong, Millar etc.
Doesn’t stop me loving watching it though.