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The Rapture (Return of Christ) & Doomsday Predicted
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BulgarianPride
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The thing with these Raptures and doomsday theories is that if humanity is to ever face an extinction event, people will claim god did it.
mammutly
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ElanJo said:“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
“Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
Jesus said that it would occur in the lifetimes of those who lived at the same time as he did.
Bit overdue...
But Jesus still lives in the faith and actions of millions.
You have to look beyond the literal to interpret the message of Christ.
Jesus! He gave his last supper speech almost entirely in metaphor for Christs sake!
mammutly said:But Jesus still lives in the faith and actions of millions.
You have to look beyond the literal to interpret the message of Christ.
Jesus! He gave his last supper speech almost entirely in metaphor for Christs sake!
So YOUR faith is better than other people's faith?
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-literal.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-literal.html</a>
mancincali
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ElanJo said:mancincali said:"how foolish would you feel if there was a rapture and you were sent to hell though? and why do you feel the need to make those who believe in something they take for commonplace seem dumb?"
why do you feel the need to make those who do not believe in something fear eternal incomprehensible torture?
just to show my viewpoint on what I believe could/will happen to someone who I don't want to see it happen to
mammutly
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Damocles said:mammutly said:But Jesus still lives in the faith and actions of millions.
You have to look beyond the literal to interpret the message of Christ.
Jesus! He gave his last supper speech almost entirely in metaphor for Christs sake!
So YOUR faith is better than other people's faith?
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-literal.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-literal.html</a>
Not at all, Damocles.
But nor do I think communion wine is actually blood - it doesn't taste like it anyway.
ElanJo
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mammutly said:ElanJo said:Jesus said that it would occur in the lifetimes of those who lived at the same time as he did.
Bit overdue...
But Jesus still lives in the faith and actions of millions.
You have to look beyond the literal to interpret the message of Christ.
Jesus! He gave his last supper speech almost entirely in metaphor for Christs sake!
pmsl you're arguing the semantics of my description of the passage. You're not tackling what the Bible says.
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mancincali said:ElanJo said:why do you feel the need to make those who do not believe in something fear eternal incomprehensible torture?
just to show my viewpoint on what I believe could/will happen to someone who I don't want to see it happen to
Why don't you want to see it happen to him/her?
edit:
So you're doing them a service by enlightening them, albeit in a shocking way, to the reality of their situation? Why is saying something along the lines of "you're dumb for believing in X" any different? In the end you think truth (or what you think is the truth - ie Hell) is more important than potentially causing offence, right?
With that said, if causing offence is the big no no the Christian's proselytisation of hell is far more offensive than someone saying "you're dumb for believing that" because of all the underlying premises that go with it (eg. that they're worthless, sinful, wicked, responsible for the death of 'the most perfect man that has ever lived' and how they deserve to be thrown into an everlasting state of torment and torture etc.)
SkyBlueFlux
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The way I always saw it.
If some of the genuinely good people I know (people who have spent their lives helping others) are 'sent to hell' because they can't bring themselves to believe in something without proper evidence, then I'd quite willingly follow them into eternal damnation.
If heaven is some exclusive club for people who 'saw it coming' and everybody else was excluded, then I don't want to go to heaven. It seems a contradiction towards everything heaven is supposed to entail.
Either way, I don't believe in heaven and hell. I can't help but see it as 'wishful thinking' for people who can't stand the thought that when you die... you die.
If some of the genuinely good people I know (people who have spent their lives helping others) are 'sent to hell' because they can't bring themselves to believe in something without proper evidence, then I'd quite willingly follow them into eternal damnation.
If heaven is some exclusive club for people who 'saw it coming' and everybody else was excluded, then I don't want to go to heaven. It seems a contradiction towards everything heaven is supposed to entail.
Either way, I don't believe in heaven and hell. I can't help but see it as 'wishful thinking' for people who can't stand the thought that when you die... you die.
mammutly
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SkyBlueFlux said:The way I always saw it.
If some of the genuinely good people I know (people who have spent their lives helping others) are 'sent to hell' because they can't bring themselves to believe in something without proper evidence, then I'd quite willingly follow them into eternal damnation.
If heaven is some exclusive club for people who 'saw it coming' and everybody else was excluded, then I don't want to go to heaven. It seems a contradiction towards everything heaven is supposed to entail.
Either way, I don't believe in heaven and hell. I can't help but see it as 'wishful thinking' for people who can't stand the thought that when you die... you die.
Here's a song for you, brother:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnBW-mHBNzo[/youtube]
SkyBlueFlux
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mammutly said:SkyBlueFlux said:The way I always saw it.
If some of the genuinely good people I know (people who have spent their lives helping others) are 'sent to hell' because they can't bring themselves to believe in something without proper evidence, then I'd quite willingly follow them into eternal damnation.
If heaven is some exclusive club for people who 'saw it coming' and everybody else was excluded, then I don't want to go to heaven. It seems a contradiction towards everything heaven is supposed to entail.
Either way, I don't believe in heaven and hell. I can't help but see it as 'wishful thinking' for people who can't stand the thought that when you die... you die.
Here's a song for you, brother:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnBW-mHBNzo[/youtube]
Haha :') beautiful. I've been converted through the majesty of music. Let's all go and give God a big hug, his arms are open and waiting.