The (real) start of the end of Roberto ?

[BobKowalski]

Article from Danny Taylor on some of the politics behind the decision

Exit Planned

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Any mention.of the aborted tribunal? Looking back that seems to be the catalyst. Maybe he was offered a deal to drop it for an out to an.Italian team.

 

[BobKowalski]

Any mention.of the aborted tribunal? Looking back that seems to be the catalyst. Maybe he was offered a deal to drop it for an out to an.Italian team.

Not sure if the tribunal was a catalyst but it was a pretty big pointer toward the door.

Mancini was the last to hold out on Mario and once he signalled enough was enough the end was swift and given the timeframes and that there was only one buyer its not a bad deal.

Although everyone was lying through their back teeth for the last two weeks or so. Bad Roberto. Still it worked so I'll let you off you little scamp.

 

[cleavers]

Article from Danny Taylor on some of the politics behind the decision

Exit Planned

Daniel Taylor was at the meeting before training so knows what was said, OK.

Sorry but its made up to suit the eventual outcome, and its unlikely it will be denied on either side.

 

[BobKowalski]

Article from Danny Taylor on some of the politics behind the decision

Exit Planned

Daniel Taylor was at the meeting before training so knows what was said, OK.

Sorry but its made up to suit the eventual outcome, and its unlikely it will be denied on either side.

Ah you mean it doesn't suit your narrative so hence its bollocks

Daniel Taylor on the 12th January:

"There is a good reason why over the coming days and weeks you may hear Roberto Mancini maintaining the public line that Manchester City don't want to sell Mario Balotelli and will happily stick by him no matter how many times he brings the club and himself into disrepute.

The truth is something different. It is just that Mancini is schooled in football politics and understands very well that the first rule of selling is to have a strategy. Admitting that Balotelli is for sale would drive down his price. So a different version is offered for the cameras when, privately, City are already down to the nitty-gritty of talking about how much money they can get and who may possibly want him....."

You can read the rest on the Guardian site if you wish but you get the drift.

Over to you sweet cheeks

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Back to the "point" you raised, no it doesn't signal the "real start of the end" for Mancini, all it is is a player leaving the club for a handsome fee. If he knew, which I suspect he did and is why Balo didn't play recently, not that he had a virus or whatever, and admitted he was going weeks ago, we would have had weeks of speculation. As it is we only had it bad the past few days, job well done all round.

As for allowing Platt to take the media, nothing wrong in that, we've seen it before and won't have seen the last of it.

We've no idea what Tricky and Ferrari have in the pipeline for the next few days (if anything!) so lets see what happens next.

Which was I thought it a decent question to ask.

I'm far from wanting Mancini out, which is not what the thread is about. It was about his continued support for Mario even as late as Saturday, but he's seemingly gone anyway, so maybe its a decision forced on him (and maybe not), and the implications of that. I don't see why this should be a taboo subject on a City forum.

It's not "taboo". We're discussing it on a City forum now. Mancini's relationship with Balo has no bearing on what is good for business, it's folly to suggest that while Balo's agent was agreeing terms Mancini had no knowledge of it. Mancini may have even hugged him off at Ringway. Let's face it, much as I like Balotelli, and I do, he has hardly been a key player this season. If we can see that, so can Mancini. His various illnesses and viruses have been a smokescreen, and we have been getting results without him. I don't think it has been "forced" on Mancini, but suggested, maybe, and Mancini agreed. Onwards and upwards.

 

[Pam]

Jesus wept, another Bobby Manc thread. OP, you are reading too much into this.

 

[cleavers]

Article from Danny Taylor on some of the politics behind the decision

Exit Planned

Daniel Taylor was at the meeting before training so knows what was said, OK.

Sorry but its made up to suit the eventual outcome, and its unlikely it will be denied on either side.

Ah you mean it doesn't suit your narrative so hence its bollocks

Daniel Taylor on the 12th January:

"There is a good reason why over the coming days and weeks you may hear Roberto Mancini maintaining the public line that Manchester City don't want to sell Mario Balotelli and will happily stick by him no matter how many times he brings the club and himself into disrepute.

The truth is something different. It is just that Mancini is schooled in football politics and understands very well that the first rule of selling is to have a strategy. Admitting that Balotelli is for sale would drive down his price. So a different version is offered for the cameras when, privately, City are already down to the nitty-gritty of talking about how much money they can get and who may possibly want him....."

You can read the rest on the Guardian site if you wish but you get the drift.

Over to you sweet cheeks

Ok thanks very much "sweet cheeks", obviously the media always know the full story, especially sweet daniel. What was I thinking to disbelieve such a reliable source, he's such a great investigative journalist.

In the real world jounalists hear stuff/make shit up, and for this reason I don't buy newspapers ever, and everything I read on their websites, I assume to be about as true as all McDonald's burgers contain 100% beef.

Jesus wept, another Bobby Manc thread. OP, you are reading too much into this.

No, its not "another Bobby Manc" thread, and I'm reading nothing into anything.

I was just posing a relevant question, its what debate on a forum is all about.

 

[Yaya_Tony]

Jesus wept, another Bobby Manc thread. OP, you are reading too much into this.

No, its not "another Bobby Manc" thread, and I'm reading nothing into anything.

I was just posing a relevant question, its what debate on a forum is all about.

TBF, when you start a thread with a loaded title, and given what the forum has had to put up with about the manager every couple of months, you have to expect a few pissy responses.

Personally, I'm not even sure there is much to debate here anyway. And I am certain it isn't a relevant question.

 

[Damanino]

There are changes behind the scene, Txiki/Soriano wont run the "business" like Marwood did.

You dont really hear any crying from Mancini about transfers these days. Only thing he said we might need to bring in a defender if it will be about injuries etc.

Nothing like he was in the summer, we must make transfers we must bring in new faces, why is Marwood so late with transfers, ask Marwood etc.

The tone changed, Txiki wont take these kind of insults or the men who hired him and Soriano.

In the summer I can see more transfers in and out which maybe wont be the likes Mancini likes totally but of course he will have a say in it. Not 100% surely but he can have an opinion but it was like before. Marwood had ideas, Mancini had ideas, they agreed somewhere in the middle.