The Rise of the Far Right

Some absolute wanker walking on Ashton new road after the game today.

At a time where others were celebrating a city win and so should he, He starts shouting "ingurland" then eyeballed 2 people coming in the opposite direction who were also city fans who wasnt even aware of the guy and he shouts "paki cunts" towards them. They either didn't hear it, it didnt register that it was directed at them or perhaps they just wanted to get away from it and so there was no response from them and no escalation.

I was a fair bit behind him, I did respond with a "fuck off you racist prick" but I think the fat mess was too wasted to even process the response. As i was walking and eventually overtaking him, i did notice there was somebody with him who I think was trying to have a word with him at least but I found it quite shocking how little push back he got for brazen racist abuse directed towards other city fans and immediately after a derby win.

There was a lot of ramblings afterwards as he was talking to the person beside him but i did hear him say "I'm not racist" amongst it. Not sure how you can say that after saying what he said moments beforehand. Disgrace of a human, hope he carried on and got flattened.
 
I find it bizarre that posters are going after @The perfect fumble .
It's almost like they're not interested in a different take on the subject.
Either that or they're just happy to file opposing views as "far right" or "leftist loons" for that matter.
I regard myself as a centrist by the way. But feel free to stick the boot in.
 
blueinsa said:
I think you understand. You just refuse to accept it so it’s easier to just attack him with the usual name calling.
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What name calling?

I really don't understand. I think he's obsessed with his own definitions of words and isms but I can't pin down what it all really means.

English ethnicity now apparently extends to all the Empire's subjects.
 
5 Hit Gibbon said:
Can anyone define what British culture is? Just so we know what we are supposed to be returning to?
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it’s difficult to define, as it’s made of lots of different aspects. For example Manchester has a rich culture and history unique to the city - working class industry, the accent, humour, football and the music.

Do you think there’s no such thing as British culture?
 
Vic said:
What name calling?

I really don't understand. I think he's obsessed with his own definitions of words and isms but I can't pin down what it all really means.

English ethnicity now apparently extends to all the Empire's subjects.
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Go ask David Lammy and Diane Abbott, they reckon that if ethnicity is this....

An ethnicity or ethnic group is a group of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Attributes that ethnicities believe to share include language, culture, common sets of ancestry, traditions, society, religion, history or social treatment.

Then they have a case.

Take it up with them if you don't like it.
 
The perfect fumble said:
You see what you want to see. Ethno nationalism was at the core of two world wars, it was at the core of most wars in the 20th Century, why do you think the Ukrainians are fighting? Or the Palestinians and the Israelis? What's self determination if not ethno nationalism? It runs deep whether we like it or not, it cannot be eradicated because it's inconvenient so it needs to be enlarged and that's what I was saying when I posted this....





If you think you're being progressive coz you don't believe there's an indigenous population in this country, that's not progressive it's stupidity, it's blinding dogma akin to screaming that apples don't fall off trees they drift into space and condemning those that state the bleeding obvious and calling them racists and bigots might make you feel good but it get's us precisely nowhere.
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The Ukrainians? Which ethno nationalists were against each other in the Maidan revolution?
 
The perfect fumble said:
Go ask David Lammy and Diane Abbott, they reckon that if ethnicity is this....

An ethnicity or ethnic group is a group of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Attributes that ethnicities believe to share include language, culture, common sets of ancestry, traditions, society, religion, history or social treatment.

Then they have a case.

Take it up with them if you don't like it.
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Which of those attributes is the key question and where people differ.
 
Hgblue2 said:
Britain is one of the oldest still functioning parliamentary democracies on the planet, built on strong Christian foundations.

We are the home of Magna Carta, the birthplace of the system of common law that is the real source of concepts such as individual liberty, free speech, the right to a fair trial, etc.

Our language is the most widely spoken on the planet, the language of the internet and global commerce.

We are the home of the industrial revolution, the first steam engine, leading to key advances like steam trains, steam boats and factory production.

The home of cultural giants like Shakespeare, Dickens, Tolkien, Orwell, etc. Some of the most influential figures in world literature to this day.

The home of scientists who made major contributions to the progress of humanity such as Newton, Darwin, Faraday, Turin, etc. Again, hugely influential on the global stage.

Just a tiny fraction of the legendary figures produced by this tiny island off the coast of Europe, I could go on and on but I don't have the time or energy, you could write a book about the contribution Britain has made to the progress of the human race and I'm sure many have.

Our contribution to the arts, music, the wider culture, continues to this day.

We're standing on the shoulders of giants, we have a lot to be proud of, we have a distinctive culture that produced these hugely significant ancestors, and this is worth celebrating and preserving.

Talk about fish and chips and curry is a very low grade level of analysis of what it means to be British and a little bit silly.

The liberal establishment is pushing the narrative that the expression of pride in your nation is in some way far right, but the vast majority of the country isn't buying it.
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Well said. According to some on here we have no culture, which is clearly a load of rubbish. As you’ve said we’re one of the oldest democracies on the planet and have a lot to be proud of.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
it’s difficult to define, as it’s made of lots of different aspects. For example Manchester has a rich culture and history unique to the city - working class industry, the accent, humour, football and the music.

Do you think there’s no such thing as British culture?
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You missed out Womens Suffrage and if you spread the net a little wider the Co-operative movement
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
"Far", anything is dangerous to everyone. But the labelling as "far" really doesn't advance debate. It just creates greater division.
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So we just say right, no distinction between the politics of Yaxley and Cameron?

not sure labelling of far left or far right is the actual problem here, removing the labels won’t remove the chasm of division
 
Monkfish said:
Who is the far left and how are they dangerous to your freedom?
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those who supress free speech, getting people arrested for innocuous tweets, those supprting terrorists marching on our streets, those who think it's ok for men to use womens changing rooms and toilets, those who would allow men to share a cell in prison with a woman or a hospital ward, those who think its ok for people to arrive on our shores in record numbers illegaly but aint willing to take them in, thats who!
 
mind your car Mr? said:
those who supress free speech, getting people arrested for innocuous tweets, those supprting terrorists marching on our streets, those who think it's ok for men to use womens changing rooms and toilets, those who would allow men to share a cell in prison with a woman or a hospital ward, those who think its ok for people to arrive on our shores in record numbers illegaly but aint willing to take them in, thats who!
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How big are the cells in prisons nowadays if they can fit in a whole hospital ward?! ;)
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
"Far", anything is dangerous to everyone. The labelling as "far" really doesn't advance debate. It just creates greater division.
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Disagree to an extent. I think the “far” is useful to isolate the people who exist to meatshield their team from any criticism and attack the other team for any perceived issues (quite often using stuff they’ve read on the internet and not checked for themselves).

These days there are fucking loads of the above. They are “far” from their cause as their only cause is to attack the other team
 
Monkfish said:
So we just say right, no distinction between the politics of Yaxley and Cameron?

not sure labelling of far left or far right is the actual problem here, removing the labels won’t remove the chasm of division
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The labelling of a persons view is a huge problem now. It happened during the Tories reign, too. The left the right. The far this. The far that. It's pigeon-holing people who have no political bias.
 
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