The Russians are on their way...why am I not shocked.

[Balti]

The Russians are in the Crimea as we speak...and in all honesty does anyone really think we (The west) are going to do anything about it?

The west have invaded every country that have looked at us sideways and now Obama is preaching from the pulpit whilst the BBC churn out anti-Russian propaganda like they did for the SOCHI games.

It's utter utter fuckwittery :-)

 

[johnny on the spot]

Good time to watch this?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUYCnzmDJY[/youtube]

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Good time to watch this?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUYCnzmDJY[/youtube]

That film is one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen.

I can't believe anyone in their right mind would subject the world to this all for a bit of power.

 

[Chancy Termites]

The bigger picture is that Russia has lost the Ukraine or rather it's government by proxy, it's been a long time coming and they have tried their hardest, but the Ukrainians want to be free from Russian dominance

I substantial part of the Ukraine want to move to the Russian side.

It's not THAT clear cut is it?

For "substantial part", read "majority". That's how Yanukovich came to be elected in the first place. The candidate who wanted closer ties with the EU lost the vote, a vote that was described at the time by external observers as perfectly free and fair.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Nobody will stop Russia will they?

Im waiting for the UN to tell me if its legal or not

 

[ali benarbia's studs]

nuke moscow..... WC back to england!



yeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

The bigger picture is that Russia has lost the Ukraine or rather it's government by proxy, it's been a long time coming and they have tried their hardest, but the Ukrainians want to be free from Russian dominance

I substantial part of the Ukraine want to move to the Russian side.

It's not THAT clear cut is it?

For "substantial part", read "majority". That's how Yanukovich came to be elected in the first place. The candidate who wanted closer ties with the EU lost the vote, a vote that was described at the time by external observers as perfectly free and fair.

Indeed.....

I think what Russia are doing is perfectly reasonable given the way the old president was ousted.

It's almost like a communist movement in Canada overthrowing their premier and saying that they would be seeking closer ties with other communist nations.

Would America just sit there and go....ok no problem. Go ahead. Would they fuck.

 

[Big-P]

Hopefully be traveling down to wembley and be in somewhere not worth nuking like Staffordshire when the nukes go off

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Seems to be getting a lot worse in the Ukraine. It seems to me that apart from Kiev thE majority of thE people are pro Russia. With large pro Russia demonstrations going on in all the other cities. I can't see ukraines government lasting long

 

[I'm With Stupid]

The bigger picture is that Russia has lost the Ukraine or rather it's government by proxy, it's been a long time coming and they have tried their hardest, but the Ukrainians want to be free from Russian dominance

I substantial part of the Ukraine want to move to the Russian side.

It's not THAT clear cut is it?

For "substantial part", read "majority". That's how Yanukovich came to be elected in the first place. The candidate who wanted closer ties with the EU lost the vote, a vote that was described at the time by external observers as perfectly free and fair.

The initial vote might've been "free and fair" (dubious in itself) but the subsequent actions have been anything but. He arrested his political rivals on trumped up charges, corruption has increased massively, all in favour of his close friends and family (his son is now one of the richest men in the Ukraine despite only having trained as a dentist), he has turned the country into an economic basket case, and his security forces have opened fire on citizens of his own country merely for protesting about him. If you lived there, would you wait another 2 years to oust him when he's clearly guilty of so many crimes? Actual crimes, incidentally, not simply doing a shit job. I don't care how free or fair the elections were (Hitler anyone?) you forego any democratic mandate when you oversee the killing of your own citizens for the mere act of protesting. But like I said, they should just split the country along ethnic lines as there's clearly a massive ideological split in the country.

Incidentally, it's not the majority of Ukrainians that support the government. Like the UK, a party can win an election with just 30% of the popular vote. In 2012, they received 30% of the vote and that translated to 187 seats. The second place party got 25% of the vote, but just 102 seats. The 3 opposition parties that make up the opposition coalition got nearly 50% of the vote, yet that only made 180 seats.