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Too long in power FFS

Nothing to do with the criminality running right through the heart of the party!!

Nothing to do with the former justice minister and now former first ministers own brother in law being a high level smack dealer!!

Nothing to do with broken promises like the dualing of the A 9! The ferry fiasco! The fact we pay higher taxes than anyone else in the UK but have poorer performing public services! Aww fuck I could go on and on with the failings of the crackpots you elected but why bother. You deserve everything you get … or don’t get from that party. Unfortunately people like myself are funding this nonsense
You pay a little more towards it through your tax. But you (Scotland) still only support 90% of your own budget. The other 10% is subsidised by the rest of the UK. I guess that is even more reason to be annoyed, you get more money but in your opinion worse services?

I would dispute the last point, as so many of the progressive policies favoured by Saddleworth are seemingly unaffordable south of the border.
 
Too long in power FFS

Nothing to do with the criminality running right through the heart of the party!!

Nothing to do with the former justice minister and now former first ministers own brother in law being a high level smack dealer!!

Nothing to do with broken promises like the dualing of the A 9! The ferry fiasco! The fact we pay higher taxes than anyone else in the UK but have poorer performing public services! Aww fuck I could go on and on with the failings of the crackpots you elected but why bother. You deserve everything you get … or don’t get from that party. Unfortunately people like myself are funding this nonsense
Okay, carry on ranting.
 
Too long in power FFS

Nothing to do with the criminality running right through the heart of the party!!

Nothing to do with the former justice minister and now former first ministers own brother in law being a high level smack dealer!!

Nothing to do with broken promises like the dualing of the A 9! The ferry fiasco! The fact we pay higher taxes than anyone else in the UK but have poorer performing public services! Aww fuck I could go on and on with the failings of the crackpots you elected but why bother. You deserve everything you get … or don’t get from that party. Unfortunately people like myself are funding this nonsense
Let me guess; he's a a Celtic fan, yeah?

;-)
 
You pay a little more towards it through your tax. But you (Scotland) still only support 90% of your own budget. The other 10% is subsidised by the rest of the UK. I guess that is even more reason to be annoyed, you get more money but in your opinion worse services?

I would dispute the last point, as so many of the progressive policies favoured by Saddleworth are seemingly unaffordable south of the border.
Remember the so called ‘Dementia Tax’?

In England they could take £30K towards your care costs. I believe they increased it to £100k at the last election and there was an outcry south of the border. This ‘Dementia Tax’ didn’t affect Scotland because here they can take up to 100% of your assets but don’t worry the junkies get their ‘free’ methadone

Our children’s education has fallen through the floor.

The former first minister (sturgeon) promised to end Child poverty. 3 of the 5 top areas with the worst child poverty are in her own constituency!

and so on and so on and so on….
 
Just heard Ian Blackford saying there isn't a reason to go to the polls despite his party deciding on yet another new first minister . When he was vermently calling for one when Truss stood down. What a hypocrite. Lol

It's that kind of hypocrisy that makes people think they're all the same. Wankers.
 
Remember the so called ‘Dementia Tax’?

In England they could take £30K towards your care costs. I believe they increased it to £100k at the last election and there was an outcry south of the border. This ‘Dementia Tax’ didn’t affect Scotland because here they can take up to 100% of your assets but don’t worry the junkies get their ‘free’ methadone

Our children’s education has fallen through the floor.

The former first minister (sturgeon) promised to end Child poverty. 3 of the 5 top areas with the worst child poverty are in her own constituency!

and so on and so on and so on….
I agree that you have every right to complain about how your politicians spend your budget, whether they mismanage it or whether they spend it on things that you don't agree with. But that doesn't change the fact that south of the border we get 90p for every pound you guys get and our politicians are sadly just as incompetent.
 
It's that kind of hypocrisy that makes people think they're all the same. Wankers.
There is one difference though, in Westminster there is no way of making them, in Scotland the SNP don’t have a majority so if Parliament wants an election one can be forced.
 
So we will get yet another First Minster crowned by their own in a minority government.

It was bad enough when the Tories did it, the SNP amongst many others told us plenty of times but it seems when it suits, they will just do the exact same thing again themselves.
 
So we will get yet another First Minster crowned by their own in a minority government.

It was bad enough when the Tories did it, the SNP amongst many others told us plenty of times but it seems when it suits, they will just do the exact same thing again themselves.
As I posted only if the rest of the parliaments Mps allow it, they can vote the SNP out any time they like, they could even form a coalition and appoint a different first minister, and call an election if they felt strongly about it.
 
So we will get yet another First Minster crowned by their own in a minority government.

It was bad enough when the Tories did it, the SNP amongst many others told us plenty of times but it seems when it suits, they will just do the exact same thing again themselves.

Maybe, but it is not like that decision rests entirely with the SNP, or any one party, in power or not. Not without an outright majority at least, which we know is almost impossible to get anyway up here.
 
There is one difference though, in Westminster there is no way of making them, in Scotland the SNP don’t have a majority so if Parliament wants an election one can be forced.
Same principal tho, just slightly different circumstances, Blackford is a hypocrite.
 
Same principal tho, just slightly different circumstances, Blackford is a hypocrite.
Not really because the Scotish parliament doesn’t need an election to change the government. The whole Scottish system is designed that no one party should get a majority, at the time because they feared a permanent Labour government. Except the SNP broke the system just the once. In general though, and currently,Scottish MPs are always in a position to change the first minister if they choose to, without an election being called, unlike Westminster.
If Holyrood doesn’t want the new leader to be FM, then they won’t be.
 
Not really because the Scotish parliament doesn’t need an election to change the government. The whole Scottish system is designed that no one party should get a majority, at the time because they feared a permanent Labour government. Except the SNP broke the system just the once. In general though, and currently,Scottish MPs are always in a position to change the first minister if they choose to, without an election being called, unlike Westminster.
If Holyrood doesn’t want the new leader to be FM, then they won’t be.
You are missing the point. Blackford was calling for there to be an election when the Torys changed their leader without an election which they can constitutionally do. Now his own party is doing the same, he doesnt want one.
Both parties need a majority or a coalition, neither have to go to the electorate.
 
As I posted only if the rest of the parliaments Mps allow it, they can vote the SNP out any time they like, they could even form a coalition and appoint a different first minister, and call an election if they felt strongly about it.
Which party wants an election though? Certainly not the Tories, Labour won’t be too confident either. If the SNP get a decent leader they’d do ok in any election.
 
Which party wants an election though? Certainly not the Tories, Labour won’t be too confident either. If the SNP get a decent leader they’d do ok in any election.
Don’t get why the tories would support a no confidence, to force an election in Scotland they can’t win and would lose seats. As for Labour they were in a decent position going into the GE, they still are but forcing Yousaf out may give the SNP a bounce that reduces that advantage a bit.
 
Don’t get why the tories would support a no confidence, to force an election in Scotland they can’t win and would lose seats. As for Labour they were in a decent position going into the GE, they still are but forcing Yousaf out may give the SNP a bounce that reduces that advantage a bit.
I think possibly the Torries have forced a vote of no confidence just to make the SNP look even more chaotic than they are with even more negatove headlines? Doubt they would get a bounce at present. But I also agree I can't see people jumping to the Tories anywhere in the UK at present.
 

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