The state of the gardens - another police incident

There's a definite social problem that needs to be addressed.
People are bigger cunts today than they were yesterday, and will probably even bigger cunts tomorrow. That’s the “social problem.” The rest is an excuse for carrying a knife and using it, same as it is for guns here....and that’s getting worse there, too!

Face it, Manchester is a bit of a cesspit once you get away from the few vibrant places worth a visit for a drink or a meal...or the one place worth going for a game.
 
People are bigger cunts today than they were yesterday, and will probably even bigger cunts tomorrow. That’s the “social problem.” The rest is an excuse for carrying a knife and using it, same as it is for guns here....and that’s getting worse there, too!

Face it, Manchester is a bit of a cesspit once you get away from the few vibrant places worth a visit for a drink or a meal...or the one place worth going for a game.


Violent crime has decrease to one of it's lowest levels since records were being taken in 1981, with it staying roughly at the same level since 2014, the peak year was 1995 and has declines since.


What we have more of now is 24hr coverage of crime, people were getting stabbed in the past decadesquite regulary just it wasn't on a rolling news channel.
 
Out of interest, in 2019 London had about 100 stabbings. The population of London is 8.9m. So, obviously that’s one stabbing for every 89,000 head of population.

In the same period, in Manchester there were 22 stabbings as I understand it. The population of Manchester is 500,000, so that’s one stabbing for every 28,000 head of population.

You’re about three times as likely to be stabbed in Manchester as in London.

Did you feel unsafe this morning?

Knife crime is a real problem but when the tabloids tell you there’s another stabbing every day, take it with a pinch of salt.
There's no way there were only 100 stabbings in London last year. An average month would have more than that!
 
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There's no way there were only 100 stabbings in London last year. An average month would have more than that!


There was 149 homicides in London in 2019, 90 of them were fatal stabbings, that is the offiical figures from the MET and mayors office.

Non fatal stabbings nationally were at 44000 for the first half of the year to june stats after that are yet to be published
 
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There was 149 homicides in London in 2019, 90 of them were fatal stabbings, that is the offiical figures from the MET and mayors office.

Non fatal stabbings nationally were at 440000 for the first half of the year to june stats after that are yet to be published
Right, so he meant fatal stabbings then? Not really a useful metric for determining how likely you are to be stabbed. Stabbed to death, yes. Stabbed, no.
 
Right, so he meant fatal stabbings then? Not really a useful metric for determining how likely you are to be stabbed. Stabbed to death, yes. Stabbed, no.

Yeah I think peolpe equate being stabbed to the knife crime death toll more than other knife crime.

Saying that the 44000 I quoted are knife crimes so even a mugging where someone threatens you with a knife is counted, some of that number won't have had a stabbing at all.
 
There's a definite social problem that needs to be addressed.
People are bigger cunts today than they were yesterday, and will probably even bigger cunts tomorrow. That’s the “social problem.” The rest is an excuse for carrying a knife and using it, same as it is for guns here....and that’s getting worse there, too!

Face it, Manchester is a bit of a cesspit once you get away from the few vibrant places worth a visit for a drink or a meal.
 
There was 149 homicides in London in 2019, 90 of them were fatal stabbings, that is the offiical figures from the MET and mayors office.

Non fatal stabbings nationally were at 440000 for the first half of the year to june stats after that are yet to be published

Nearly half a million non fatal stabbings? There’s either a typo in here or you have been using the Mail as your source. Does that figure deal specifically with stabbings or is it referring to all crimes involving a knife and not just actual stabbings?

I googled stabbings in London 2019 and came up with the figure 100. I didn’t post the link (or the link for the number stabbings in Manchester) and after a brief search cannot find them. It may be that both figures related to fatal stabbings, it may be that neither did, it may be that one did and the other did not. Obviously if you are going to dissect the figures it helps to know if you are making like for like comparisons.

The point I was making is that because London is much bigger it is obvious that there will be more stabbings, but per head of population the risk is not necessarily significantly greater in London than anywhere else. More significantly, in London it is extremely rare for knife crime to feature in large central areas comparable to Piccadilly Gardens. None of this is to say that knife crime is not a real problem, it is and it’s getting worse, but it is not helpful to to swallow hysterical reporting from news outlets that are more interested in gathering clicks than telling the truth.

A bit like when Donald Trump said Birmingham was a no go area for non Muslims. If you live there, you understand the extent to which there is something in this and the extent to which it’s horseshit.
 

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