The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement

[91:23]

I'm a back them or sack them kind of person, the way City have treated us all since Sunday evening is nothing short of disgraceful. Someone will be falling on their sword for sure. Bollocks did we have little notice, and if we did, you pull an all nighter to consider it properly.

171 page contract sly are reporting. That doesn't get drawn up in a few days. This has been ongoing for months

 

[City Man]

I've heard it was an 'in principle' agreement only "City" Man.

Good. I suppose the ashes of this debacle will be raked over for some time. I'm now turning my attention to seasoncard renewal, yet another scarf and usb stick, pre and post match pints, getting rained on in my seat conveniently positioned just outside the stand cover and trudging back to Piccadilly in the wet and dark. Never has the prospect seemed so sweet.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Genuine question now, we have seen over the last 3 days the outrage from those against this farce of a competition - especially from us the fans

But there is still an elephant in the room and one that should not be allowed to be forgotten or swept aside. And that is the newly reformed champions league format that has an even bigger protectionist element actively within its rules allowing any established g14 club to qualify based on past merit regardless of there league position

This is also an abhorrent regulation that is basically a watered down version of the non-relegation side of the super league

We should move against this reform and force UEFA to remove this element from within european competition

 

[City Raider]

Apart from Arsenal having won more trophies that City, and Spurs having won the same amount, i can't think of anything...

1. M*nchester Un*ted - 66 trophies
2. Liverpool - 65 trophies
3. Arsenal - 48 trophies
4. Chelsea - 31 trophies
5. Manchester City - 26 trophies
6. Tottenham Hotspur - 26 trophies

This is the kind of comment that gives City a bad name, 20, 15 even 10 years ago, City would have been nowhere near this ESL Shitshow.

50 years ago we would have been though. Before Arsenal forced through Sky deal and more recent than Spurs most recent league title.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

So everyone and everything we didn't like before we now do and accept. Going to be quiet on here when the dust settles

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Personally speaking, I'm not sure how I feel. I'm not sure I feel anything.
I just feel numb.
While I'm glad we pulled out, I just don't feel the same closeness and emotion for the club as I did last Saturday.
I just feel a kind of sadness, a sense of loss, of sense of drift and alienation.
One thing this episode has brought home is that football is about more than how many trophies you can win, money you can spend, players you can buy, the size of your revenue and the number of fans in the stadium and worldwide, it isn't all about tribalism, it isn't all about rivalry.. It's about integrity, it's about fairness, it's about morals, sporting and otherwise, it's about community, it's about togetherness, it's about belonging. All these values were challenged and the truth of what football has become was laid stark and bare for everyone to see.
Genuine football fans will forever, I think, be changed by this experience. Having experienced both sides of the football coin, being piss poor and shit, and also now being mega rich and one of the best teams in the world, they will evaluate what football and being a football fan means to them. They will come out the other side and experience and view football in a different way and perhaps become better football fans.
I'm sorry if I sound a bit melodramatic but something I can't put my finger on seems to have irrevocably changed inside me.

Put your faith in Pep and the players, get behind the lads in these next three games, they deserve that & need it, as supporters of this great club we should be looking to make positive change, our club has been slowly taken away from your average fan over the last decade with token gestures attempting to address the balance, we’ve all been blinded by the success, but now is the time for us to build on the small momentum we have achieved already to avoid another situation like this and implement change, starting with season ticket rises and the club inviting supporters to form a committee with a genuine direct route to the upper echelons of the club

 

[Len Rum]

Personally speaking, I'm not sure how I feel. I'm not sure I feel anything.
I just feel numb.
While I'm glad we pulled out, I just don't feel the same closeness and emotion for the club as I did last Saturday.
I just feel a kind of sadness, a sense of loss, of sense of drift and alienation.
One thing this episode has brought home is that football is about more than how many trophies you can win, money you can spend, players you can buy, the size of your revenue and the number of fans in the stadium and worldwide, it isn't all about tribalism, it isn't all about rivalry.. It's about integrity, it's about fairness, it's about community, it's about togetherness, it's about belonging. All these values were challenged and the truth of what football has become was laid stark and bare for everyone to see.
Genuine football fans will forever, I think, be changed by this experience. Having experienced both sides of the football coin, being piss poor and shit, and also now being mega rich and one of the best teams in the world, they will evaluate what football and being a football fan means to them. They will come out the other side and experience and view football in a different way and perhaps become better football fans.
I'm sorry if I sound a bit melodramatic but something I can't put my finger on seems to have irrevocably changed inside me.

The Sheikh's decision to acquire City was IMO primarily for reasons of PR, status,commerce and business advantage to himself, his royal family,Abu Dhabi and the UAE.
Bonding with the fans in terms of City Square and improving local community infrastructure etc has played a not insignificant part in this but IMO is peripheral to the main objective.
I have always accepted this and been happy to go along with it.
The FFP case last year and the existential threat this posed and now this ESL issue ( Machiavellian or cock up) are evidence of the bigger issues at play here.

 

[mexico1970]

Like Gary Barlow’s ‘non-apology apology’ after he was caught tax dodging. “I’m sorry if anyone was offended”

He should have apologised because let's face it.

It Only Takes A Minute.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

please

I get both of your positions and are both right in some ways.

However, Arsenal are shouting Kroenke out fam. We’re not calling for our owners to go.

 

[hammocity]

Genuine question now, we have seen over the last 3 days the outrage from those against this farce of a competition - especially from us the fans

But there is still an elephant in the room and one that should not be allowed to be forgotten or swept aside. And that is the newly reformed champions league format that has an even bigger protectionist element actively within its rules allowing any established g14 club to qualify based on past merit regardless of there league position

This is also an abhorrent regulation that is basically a watered down version of the non-relegation side of the super league

We should move against this reform and force UEFA to remove this element from within european competition

Let's hope a grown up discussion follows that buries the proposal of qualifying by history is permanently quashed. It, like the Super League proposal is ridiculous.