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[Grealish’s Shinpads]

Best player to come out against it so far?

Think there will be plenty of others who aren’t at one of the 12 clubs. Realistically we need a few from those clubs to come out and speak up against it.

 

[Cityzen_89]

Well I certainly don't think any of the players give a shit if I go to the game or not or buy a shirt with their name on the back. That died a long long time ago. Footballers have been detached from society for decades.

Footballers are in it for the money, I am under no illusions about that and neither are they. They throw the old bone of charity work and donations but we saw the strength of them when in a pandemic clubs asked for pay cuts and players actively campaigned against it.

So the question would then be what business does the working class man have in the game anymore? None sadly.

 

[vin]

Fuck off City

 

[St.Pauli support]

English football sold it's soul in 1992

Football clubs around the world sold their souls when they were bought out by billionaires

Manchester City FC sold it's tradition when the owners dropped the 'FC' from the name

It's a capitalist society - Shit like this happens every day around the world. Winners and losers.

As football fans,what have we actually 'lost'? - Answer, in real terms, a lot less than we will 'gain' in the long term.

Traditional football died in 1992, so what are we crying about now...? The loss of an old friend? I think not.

I'm a traditionalist. I've loved football through the 60s to the present day. I've just loved it a bit less every few years, as it became more and more of a business than a sport. Same with a lot of things in life. The departures of traditional football men like Wardle and Bernstein signalled the beginning end for me, but even so, I still kept buying my seasoncards.

The world of 'entertainment' moves forward - What is happening is outside our control. We can stamp our feet and type long messages on social media etc, but at the end of the day, it's someone else's ball, and they make the rules. We can either keep going to games, or look for something else to entertain us. I wouldn't blame anyone who doesn't go again.

I said years ago that I did not trust overseas owners involved in English football, and later expressed serious doubt over the long-term intention of Sheikh Mansour?ADUG in relation to the club. I felt at the time that we were getting in bed with the wrong people, and was criticised for even daring to question Mansour and Co.

Billionaires are billionaires because they're ruthless bastards - They don't give a shit about the 'little people' paying a couple of thousand or so a year towatch football. For every one who leaves, there are 20 tourists waiting to buy their ticket.

I look back to 2008 and remember celebrating the takeover. At the time, a rag mate (an early member of the FC United movement) said to me; "be careful what you wish for... You just might get it".

This is us 'getting it' now. The owners are heartless bastards who have never actually given a shit about the fans, tradition etc. It was all lip-service, keeping ex-players like Summerbee etc around to provide fans a tentative link to the past... It's a sham.

I'll probably still go to games in a Super League, just like I'd still go to games if we were in the Conference. It's a tough habit to break after 60 years.

One thing I do know for sure though... Manchester City died yesterday when they put Glazer's message on the website... If Mansour and Co, Pep, and all the players f*cked off tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a single tear about it. It's just killed off a bit more of my love for the game.

Great post.

When we talk about human greed I'd chip in Goethe's Dr. Faust, who made the deal with the devil.

Or "The fisherman and his wife":
https://www.grimmstories.com/en/grimm_fairy-tales/the_fisherman_and_his_wife

Greed and the consequences.
Football fans are in a moral dilemma. City fans have to cope with a global growth business model CFG and Chinese investors.
We've made the deal I mentioned above.

Nowadays younger fans don't know football was superb before business took over. City did win domestic and European titles without billions. We've lost matches and won matches.
It's football, we said.

 

[der bomber28]

No, you sound like a football fan to me. I've no idea what they'll call people who follow the ESL.

If this does indeed go ahead, I’ll be putting even more money into my local grass roots club. At least it feels like you’re at a proper footie game there.

 

[burning blue soul]

If we have as is being reported, been backed into a corner on this, could we legitimately put out weaker teams (EDs with some first team) and still just focus on the main stream comps (Prem, FA cup etc etc)?

i think we will be invited to leave that group of comps, if this all plays out in the way it has.

the fan reaction will spur UEFA on to stick to its guns on this. big showdown coming, and we chose the wrong team to fight in.

 

[Akira]

 

[Sir peace frog]

Then I'd say it gives more negotiating power to PSG/Bayern. They can still earn £300k pw there and continue playing for their countries.

The top players will follow the money make no mistake about that,

 

[MAG]

Best player to come out against it so far?

Sky employee taking the Sky line. Would be interesting to see if his views change if Sky get broadcasting rights.

I don't think it's either of those (Ex Player or Sky Pundit) ... it's a lower league club owner worried for his club's future, that's what's driving his putting on this façade of being the man of the people.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It’s finally happened.

I’m only 100 pages behind now.