The Telegraph set to release evidence of corruption in the Premier League withing the coming days

SilverFox2 said:
The purchase is usually wanted, the buyer funds the purchase totally which includes tax on this purchase together with the cash incentive which is tax free to both parties.
The loser is the Inland Revenue on the undeclared amount.

The buyer frankly decides on the valuation and will only buy if he considers the valuation will contribute to profit. He knows about the split and takes it into consideration otherwise where will it come from ?
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I don't think you have a strong grasp on bungs at all. Generally it's where some dodgy agent gets some dodgy manager to sign some shit player with a nice big agent fee (or where the selling club agree to get the agent a percentage of any sale value over a certain amount), of which he backhands a chunk of it to the manager for getting the deal done. It's less to do with tax dodging and everything to do with the agent and manager colluding to rob the football club of a big chunk of cash by signing this dross player for over the odds, a practice that is even more crooked when the agent and manager are related
 
moomba said:
Why pay the bung if the club want to buy him anyway, or want to pay the asking price. It's normally to buy a player the manager doesnt really want (but gets a bung for) or to bump up the price the club pays with the manager getting a cut.

It's not a victimless crime.
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Did not say it was victimless merely that the money for the ´bung´comes from the purchaser who pays part via invoice and part in this cash.

If he just wants the player and does not care about cost then I agree with you but your example shows lack of financial control by the buyer who provides the cash. The way FFP works and the way our owner has worked since day 1, players are bought because they are expected to generate more profit than their existing setup so proper valuation of purchases must be made if potential losses are to be avoided.

A purchaser may very well accept a bung but the buyer or his representative will have to account for this somewhere.
 
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BigOscar said:
I don't think you have a strong grasp on bungs at all. Generally it's where some dodgy agent gets some dodgy manager to sign some shit player with a nice big agent fee (or where the selling club agree to get the agent a percentage of any sale value over a certain amount), of which he backhands a chunk of it to the manager for getting the deal done. It's less to do with tax dodging and everything to do with the agent and manager colluding to rob the football club of a big chunk of cash by signing this dross player for over the odds, a practice that is even more crooked when the agent and manager are related
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The Club get everything they ask for if your example is typical.
 
SilverFox2 said:
The Club get everything they ask for if your example is typical.
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Clubs in England traditionally trust the managers to pick transfer targets, it's the way it's always been and I imagine this is one of the major reasons they are so against directors of football. Although it doesn't have to be managers, there are more than a few chairmen suggested to have been in on it, which is pretty much just embezzlement as far as I can tell.
 
canyerdogputoutafire said:
https://t.co/lZAoQ6LSqH
Pagliari claims he made up the stories.
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BigOscar said:
Clubs in England traditionally trust the managers to pick transfer targets, it's the way it's always been and I imagine this is one of the major reasons they are so against directors of football. Although it doesn't have to be managers, there are more than a few chairmen suggested to have been in on it, which is pretty much just embezzlement as far as I can tell.
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Agreed.
Obviously not the only sector of business where embezzlement happens. Some things go straight to the top and any form of whistle blowing at any level makes your P45 a distinct possibility.
 
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