The Titanic

mosssideblue said:
They should all have sympathy imo
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I can't help thinking that they knew that there was a high risk of disaster. They apparently signed waivers acknowledging the risk of death.
It's not just a 2 hour pleasure trip off Llandudno beach where you suddenly decide to take the last few places. This is a massively expensive 'adventure', attracting thrill seekers / daredevils and the like.

It doesn't matter if they're rich, poor, brave or daft. They'll have been fully aware of the risks, and prepared to take them for the trip of a lifetime. As with rock climbers, potholers, base jumpers, speed freaks etc, the 'thrill' is dicing with death.

It's a classic example of "it's how they would have wanted to go". Selfish people leaving a trail of misery for those left behind.

While I accept that I do have some degree of sympathy for them in their situation, I can't help but think that they were all aware of dicing with death being the ultimate part of the experience.
 
Lavinda Past said:
I can't help thinking that they knew that there was a high risk of disaster. They apparently signed waivers acknowledging the risk of death.
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I actually think the opposite purely because the ‘CEO’ of the company was onboard…

If I was in their position I would definitely assume it was safe if the CEO was coming along too!
 
Lavinda Past said:
I can't help thinking that they knew that there was a high risk of disaster. They apparently signed waivers acknowledging the risk of death.
It's not just a 2 hour pleasure trip off Llandudno beach where you suddenly decide to take the last few places. This is a massively expensive 'adventure', attracting thrill seekers / daredevils and the like.

It doesn't matter if they're rich, poor, brave or daft. They'll have been fully aware of the risks, and prepared to take them for the trip of a lifetime. As with rock climbers, potholers, base jumpers, speed freaks etc, the 'thrill' is dicing with death.

It's a classic example of "it's how they would have wanted to go". Selfish people leaving a trail of misery for those left behind.

While I accept that I do have some degree of sympathy for them in their situation, I can't help but think that they were all aware of dicing with death being the ultimate part of the experience.
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Of course they new there were risks and the consequence of failure was potential death. But in their hr of need, particularly the son, they have my deepest sympathy, as do all the families involved.

We only have one life and they wanted to live it to the full which is their right.
 
Threeinarow said:
Obviously. It's The Queen Mary 2 sailing the Atlantic. No cars or streets anywhere thankfully...

Part of the journey is passing over or near to the Titanic though apparently, so I'm guessing we could end up sailing quite a distance away if there's still a massive search area that doesn't allow us to pass by a highlight of the trip.
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They could sail you 100 miles away and tell you this is the spot.... you wouldn't know the difference!
 
smevchenko said:
They could sail you 100 miles away and tell you this is the spot.... you wouldn't know the difference!
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You need the coordinates - 41°43′32″N & 49°56′49″W.

Titanic statistics:
Tonnage46,329 GRT, 21,831 NRT
Length
  • 882 ft 9 in (269.1 m) overall
  • 852 ft 6 in (259.8 m) registered
Beam92 ft 6 in (28.2 m)
Height175 ft (53.3 m) (keel to top of funnels)
Draught34 ft 7 in (10.5 m)
Decks9 (A–G)

Last week we cruised on the Cunard ship Queen Victoria to the North Cape in Norway, very similar in size.
Tonnage90,049 GT
Length964.5 ft (294 m)
Beam
  • 106 ft (32.3 m) waterline,
  • 120 ft (36.6 m) extreme (bridge wings)
Height205 ft (62.5 m) keel to funnel
Draft26.2 ft (8.0 m)
Decks16 total, 12 passenger
 
A bunch of billionaire shitting in a cylinder I bet this isn't how they imagined they'd be bowing out, I Hope they find and rescue them but the odds of that are slim to non.
 
Just saw this picture on Sky News of their HQ in Washington..Jeez..says it all.

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Lavinda Past said:
I can't help thinking that they knew that there was a high risk of disaster. They apparently signed waivers acknowledging the risk of death.
It's not just a 2 hour pleasure trip off Llandudno beach where you suddenly decide to take the last few places. This is a massively expensive 'adventure', attracting thrill seekers / daredevils and the like.

It doesn't matter if they're rich, poor, brave or daft. They'll have been fully aware of the risks, and prepared to take them for the trip of a lifetime. As with rock climbers, potholers, base jumpers, speed freaks etc, the 'thrill' is dicing with death.

It's a classic example of "it's how they would have wanted to go". Selfish people leaving a trail of misery for those left behind.

While I accept that I do have some degree of sympathy for them in their situation, I can't help but think that they were all aware of dicing with death being the ultimate part of the experience.
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Spot on. If the bit about them having to sign waivers is true, then they must have realised there is a serious element of risk involved in the venture. Every sympathy for their loved ones who are left behind, but none for them. What's that saying; play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 
jimharri said:
Spot on. If the bit about them having to sign waivers is true, then they must have realised there is a serious element of risk involved in the venture. Every sympathy for their loved ones who are left behind, but none for them. What's that saying; play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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The waivers mentioned death three times. Ok if the father wanted to blow a load of money to see some rust at the bottom of the ocean, so be it and it’s his adult choice to sign that waiver knowing the risk. To take your teenaged son with you though. Unforgivable for me, that.
 
Lavinda Past said:
I can't help thinking that they knew that there was a high risk of disaster. They apparently signed waivers acknowledging the risk of death.
It's not just a 2 hour pleasure trip off Llandudno beach where you suddenly decide to take the last few places. This is a massively expensive 'adventure', attracting thrill seekers / daredevils and the like.

It doesn't matter if they're rich, poor, brave or daft. They'll have been fully aware of the risks, and prepared to take them for the trip of a lifetime. As with rock climbers, potholers, base jumpers, speed freaks etc, the 'thrill' is dicing with death.

It's a classic example of "it's how they would have wanted to go". Selfish people leaving a trail of misery for those left behind.

While I accept that I do have some degree of sympathy for them in their situation, I can't help but think that they were all aware of dicing with death being the ultimate part of the experience.
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Yes your right, can't imagine how the bloke who took his 19 year old son along feels if its a scenario were they all have to sit there waiting for the oxygen to run out. Hopefully for all there sakes it just imploded. I'd like to think they'll be found and rescued but the chances are slim to non.
 
TBH most if not all on here would not have jumped onboard that even if it was free,only possible way you would get me on one if it was overseen by the Royal Navy
 
I'd imagine lots of us have signed waivers that mention death as a possible outcome in them before. I know I have. Off the top of my head, for skydiving, bungee jumping, scuba diving, and even karting. But I wouldn't have needed to see "death" mentioned to convince me not to get in that homemade piece of junk.
 
Dubai Blue said:
I'd imagine lots of us have signed waivers that mention death as a possible outcome in them before. I know I have. Off the top of my head, for skydiving, bungee jumping, scuba diving, and even karting. But I wouldn't have needed to see "death" mentioned to convince me not to get in that homemade piece of junk.
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Leeds and Everton away in the 70's and 80's
 
Blue and true said:
Got no sympathy for five people about to suffocate at the bottom of the Atlantic. What a wonderful person you are. I pray to God none of your loved ones ever have to endure such horror.
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Not one of my loved ones would be so fucking stupid as to go to the bottom of the ocean to look at what is essentially a grave for some sort of thrill or 'adventure'
 
Dubai Blue said:
I'd imagine lots of us have signed waivers that mention death as a possible outcome in them before. I know I have. Off the top of my head, for skydiving, bungee jumping, scuba diving, and even karting. But I wouldn't have needed to see "death" mentioned to convince me not to get in that homemade piece of junk.
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Apparently death was mentioned 3 times in the waiver but what of should of been mentioned is if the capsule was tested for pressure before going into the water or just say it’s all been checked but if there is a hairline fracture the sub will blow up!
 
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