The Title Race - 2021/22

[Man-chester copperpot]

Surely they did blink first, we didn’t start the season 12 points ahead of them did

We were never 12 points ahead.

I thought we were 12pts ahead after the Brentford 2-0 result?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

We FOCs know that 'typical City' is always just around the corner.

What do you even mean by this in the context of this season? This ‘typical City’ thing gets casually trotted out by Blues of a certain vintage, but the truth is it doesn’t stand up to objective scrutiny: in 1985, 1989, 1999 and 2000 when we needed to get promoted on the last day of the season, we delivered the goods. Without fail in that situation. Was that ‘typical City’? Or don’t those results count?

The notion that previous City teams always fucked up when they needed to deliver is plainly wrong, so what you actually mean by ‘typical’ City is the results during that period which you subconsciously cherry pick to suit your narrative - and not the occasions when we delivered the goods when it mattered.

Either way, what bearing any of those results have on the present set up is nugatory. To suggest otherwise is absurd. You may as well compare John Major with Boris Johnson because they were both Tory Prime Ministers.

It’s actually preposterous to throw the typical City thing in, like the playing of the Joker on It’s a Knockout, when you look at the track record of success at this club over the last decade. What bearing does any of that have on the club today? ‘Typical City’ never existed in the way you appear to perceive it, and it certainly doesn’t exist now.

Teams lose football games. It happens. The fact you’re using a single defeat, our first since October, as validation for such a highly dubious concept suggests you are a prisoner to our past in a way thst isn’t logical or especially healthy.

 

[Tb1981]

A draw yesterday would've been fine. That's the biggest disappointment

Yep
That extra point was breathing space
It also meant dippers had to keep winning games in hand to still be 4 behind
Unfortunately they now have hope

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Brilliant as they can be, there has always been a sneaky yellow streak in this group, especially if things aren’t going their way. Porto the prime example.
They are prone to throw in a shitshow like this now and again. It happens. But it is worrying that the first sign of pressure this season and they buckled. Bottled it and utterly shat themselves.
There was zero leadership out their today.
Everton away is enormous now, as much a test of bottle and character as anything else

They’ll step up mate.

 

[Tb1981]

assuming dippers beAt Leeds....
If we beat Everton next week we are back to 6 and they have a game in hand away to arsenal
We need to get ourselves together and just keep that gap going
they will drop points but so will we
A run of 4/5 wins now would be good
Think the week off will help as they have Leeds and Chelsea

 

[Tb1981]

Brilliant as they can be, there has always been a sneaky yellow streak in this group, especially if things aren’t going their way. Porto the prime example.
They are prone to throw in a shitshow like this now and again. It happens. But it is worrying that the first sign of pressure this season and they buckled. Bottled it and utterly shat themselves.
There was zero leadership out their today.
Everton away is enormous now, as much a test of bottle and character as anything else

First sign of pressure!!!!
Fuck off
This team has won three leagues, an fa cup, 4 league cups, a charity shield and runners up in champions league in the last 4 years
Get a grip

 

[mancity1]

What do you even mean by this in the context of this season? This ‘typical City’ thing gets casually trotted out by Blues of a certain vintage, but the truth is it doesn’t stand up to objective scrutiny: in 1985, 1989, 1999 and 2000 when we needed to get promoted on the last day of the season, we delivered the goods. Without fail in that situation. Was that ‘typical City’? Or don’t those results count?

The notion that previous City teams always fucked up when they needed to deliver is plainly wrong, so what you actually mean by ‘typical’ City is the results during that period which you subconsciously cherry pick to suit your narrative - and not the occasions when we delivered the goods when it mattered.

Either way, what bearing any of those results have on the present set up is nugatory. To suggest otherwise is absurd. You may as well compare John Major with Boris Johnson because they were both Tory Prime Ministers.

It’s actually preposterous to throw the typical City thing in, like the playing of the Joker on It’s a Knockout, when you look at the track record of success at this club over the last decade. What bearing does any of that have on the club today? ‘Typical City’ never existed in the way you appear to perceive it, and it certainly doesn’t exist now.

Teams lose football games. It happens. The fact you’re using a single defeat, our first since October, as validation for such a highly dubious concept suggests you are a prisoner to our past in a way thst isn’t logical or especially healthy.

I don't think the term typical is appropriate to be linked with City other than perhaps in the past 10 years we have often delivered when it matters but as you say games of football are lost and every side loses games when its " expected " you will win.

The number of trophies won suggest we have been the best performed team during this period of time and been the only side during that time to qualify for the champions league each season again demonstrating consistency.

if that is typical City long may it continue.

We are always disappointed when we lose a game and yes we were not at our best yesterday but we were not overrun and out of the match at anytime as was often the case in the distant past.

 

[1961_vintage]

What do you even mean by this in the context of this season? This ‘typical City’ thing gets casually trotted out by Blues of a certain vintage, but the truth is it doesn’t stand up to objective scrutiny

I'm no FOC obviously but to me "typical City" simply means that if there is a hard way or an easy way, we take the former every time.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I'm no FOC obviously but to me "typical City" simply means that if there is a hard way or an easy way, we take the former every time.

We don’t though, do we?

How does that fit with winning the Quadruple in 2019. How did we find the hard way to that?

How did we find the hard way to amass 100 point the previous season?

How did we find the hard way to win four League Cups on the spin?

Or, as @mancity1 has said, qualifying for the CL ten years on the spin?

Of course there are examples in recent years where we have, but to suggest we ‘always’ find a hard way to do something is plainly wrong. It simply does not bear any objective scrutiny.

 

[alexmcity]

We don’t though, do we?

How does that fit with winning the Quadruple in 2019. How did we find the hard way to that?

How did we find the hard way to amass 100 point the previous season?

How did we find the hard way to win four League Cups on the spin?

Or, as @mancity1 has said, qualifying for the CL ten years on the spin?

Of course there are examples in recent years where we have, but to suggest we ‘always’ find a hard way to do something is plainly wrong. It simply does not bear any objective scrutiny.

The 18/19 season we had to win the last 14 games, partly because we lost 4 games in December and January, and 3 games over 3 weeks in December alone. But yeah, I doubt we choose to do things the hard way, the competition is strong and it's hard to win easily.