The Title Race - 2021/22

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The scousers worry me, if they win their game in hand they're 8 points behind,
if we slip up at Southampton and the dippers beat Palace the gap could be down to 5 or 6, then is game on
This is an important few days for Liverpool with two tough away games on Thursday night & Sunday afternoon.
Does Klopp prioritise the cup game against Arsenal or Crystal Palace or gamble & play his strongest team for both, taking into consideration he has no Salah or Mane?
Whichever team he selects against Palace it will be a tough match & if they drop 3 points then it could well be game over.
 
This is an important few days for Liverpool with two tough away games on Thursday night & Sunday afternoon.
Does Klopp prioritise the cup game against Arsenal or Crystal Palace or gamble & play his strongest team for both, taking into consideration he has no Salah or Mane?
Whichever team he selects against Palace it will be a tough match & if they drop 3 points then it could well be game over.

agree, tough one is palace away, klopp loses that one he is in the bin with chelsea. TBH he is better off with a strong cup team because he aint winning the league.

how many points do we need, well the ratio goes more our way all the time.
 
Liverpool dropped 21 pts in the first half of 13/14, and then dropped only 9 pts in the 2nd half. Dramatic improvements are certainly possible. Tendencies over 20 games shouldn't be regarded as set in stone.

That said, IIRC, Liverpool weren't in the CL back then, but then again they didn't have such a good team.

Truth is, there is no guarantee we'll win. But we are in a fantastic position. 538 gives us 87 % chance to win, and that's about right, imo. Why ask for more in January?
that left them with 84 points then.

its about what they will finish up with at best this season.
 
that left them with 84 points then.

its about what they will finish up with at best this season.

What's your point? Virtually anyone, including Liverpool fans, thinks that a Liverpool win is unlikely. But unlikely doesn't mean impossible.

Even with a much worse team in 13/14 they dropped only 9 pts in the 2nd half of the season. It's very unlikely that they will win 15 from the next 17 games, but it's not impossible. If they win 15 and draw 2, they'll finish on 92 pts. Fortunately, we may lose 1 and draw 4 and still finish on 93 pts. We are in a great position, but it's not done yet.

For comparison about how unreliable tendencies may be: we lost 4 league games in December and January in 18/19. Back then it seemed extremely unlikely that we would win the last 14 games. But we did it. Football is a funny old game, it offers incredible scenarios at times (e.g., us vs United in 2012 with 5-6 games to go).
 
The scousers worry me, if they win their game in hand they're 8 points behind,
if we slip up at Southampton and the dippers beat Palace the gap could be down to 5 or 6, then is game on


If we match our points total from the first 16 games (38 points) in our final 16 games, then Liverpool would literally need to win every game to better that points total.

It's obviously not over, but at this stage, it's far more likely the title will be lost due to historically bad form by us (under Pep) rather than good form by Liverpool. And how likely is that?
 
The scousers worry me, if they win their game in hand they're 8 points behind,
if we slip up at Southampton and the dippers beat Palace the gap could be down to 5 or 6, then is game on
Really !!!
There is a lot of ifs and could in that worrying haha.
 
The scousers worry me, if they win their game in hand they're 8 points behind,
if we slip up at Southampton and the dippers beat Palace the gap could be down to 5 or 6, then is game on

We'll see how they perform in their next few games. They have:

Palace (a)
Leicester (h)
Burnley (a)
Norwich (h)
West Ham (h)
Brighton (a)

As well as Arsenal (a) and Leeds (h) that need to be scheduled in.

To have any chance of winning the league, they'll have to win all of those games and hope to be ahead of us in the league. From the 19th of March onwards they have more difficult fixtures where they are more likely to drop points.

I think they could go on a run, but I don't think we will drop our standards enough to let them in. Time will tell, but we should be very confident from here.
 
Liverpool might stumble into form without Mane and Salah I think. However it's a big ask winning all games with CL games sandwiched in and cup games.
 
What's your point? Virtually anyone, including Liverpool fans, thinks that a Liverpool win is unlikely. But unlikely doesn't mean impossible.

Even with a much worse team in 13/14 they dropped only 9 pts in the 2nd half of the season. It's very unlikely that they will win 15 from the next 17 games, but it's not impossible. If they win 15 and draw 2, they'll finish on 92 pts. Fortunately, we may lose 1 and draw 4 and still finish on 93 pts. We are in a great position, but it's not done yet.

For comparison about how unreliable tendencies may be: we lost 4 league games in December and January in 18/19. Back then it seemed extremely unlikely that we would win the last 14 games. But we did it. Football is a funny old game, it offers incredible scenarios at times (e.g., us vs United in 2012 with 5-6 games to go).
Same here. Its not over yet!
 
What's your point? Virtually anyone, including Liverpool fans, thinks that a Liverpool win is unlikely. But unlikely doesn't mean impossible.

Even with a much worse team in 13/14 they dropped only 9 pts in the 2nd half of the season. It's very unlikely that they will win 15 from the next 17 games, but it's not impossible. If they win 15 and draw 2, they'll finish on 92 pts. Fortunately, we may lose 1 and draw 4 and still finish on 93 pts. We are in a great position, but it's not done yet.

For comparison about how unreliable tendencies may be: we lost 4 league games in December and January in 18/19. Back then it seemed extremely unlikely that we would win the last 14 games. But we did it. Football is a funny old game, it offers incredible scenarios at times (e.g., us vs United in 2012 with 5-6 games to go).
Read the title of the thread.
 
We'll see how they perform in their next few games. They have:

Palace (a)
Leicester (h)
Burnley (a)
Norwich (h)
West Ham (h)
Brighton (a)

As well as Arsenal (a) and Leeds (h) that need to be scheduled in.

To have any chance of winning the league, they'll have to win all of those games and hope to be ahead of us in the league. From the 19th of March onwards they have more difficult fixtures where they are more likely to drop points.

I think they could go on a run, but I don't think we will drop our standards enough to let them in. Time will tell, but we should be very confident from here.
I think the key will be us just continuing this run for a few more games. If Liverpool drop points first, I think they'll be demoralised and lose any hope they've got of winning the title. Hopefully missing Salah and Mane will be their downfall against Palace.
 
We'll see how they perform in their next few games. They have:

Palace (a)
Leicester (h)
Burnley (a)
Norwich (h)
West Ham (h)
Brighton (a)

As well as Arsenal (a) and Leeds (h) that need to be scheduled in.

To have any chance of winning the league, they'll have to win all of those games and hope to be ahead of us in the league. From the 19th of March onwards they have more difficult fixtures where they are more likely to drop points.

I think they could go on a run, but I don't think we will drop our standards enough to let them in. Time will tell, but we should be very confident from here.
They should, should, get maximum points from that run of games
 
exactly, if it was the other way around im sure we would be confident that we could catch them given the amount of games still to play.
Whilst it's true the rage blew an 8 point lead against us with far fewer games left, the big difference is they had to play their competitor i.e. us, away.

This time around we have the 11 point lead (and OK, let's say it becomes 8 if Liverpool win their game in hand). But crucially we have the head to head at home. Win our home match against them and it's all over IMO.
 
Win our home match against them and it's all over IMO.
We don't play them till 9th April, by which time it could be pretty much over anyway if we are still 10 points or more ahead, as there will only be 6 games left, just got to hold this gap till then, and a draw will then be enough.

People keep saying it's not over, well it clearly isn't for a while a couple of months yet, but we are very much in the box position, and any drop of points by them will be bad for their psychology, if we keep winning.
 
We’re currently in the middle of a run of fixtures where we play before Liverpool each time. The next three games all work out that way and if we can keep winning, it’s great psychologically as they kick off knowing they have to win just to get back to where they were before we played.
Of course the opposite is the case should we drop points as that gives them a big incentive so just need to stay focused and grind out the results.
 
We don't play them till 9th April, by which time it could be pretty much over anyway if we are still 10 points or more ahead, as there will only be 6 games left, just got to hold this gap till then, and a draw will then be enough.

People keep saying it's not over, well it clearly isn't for a while a couple of months yet, but we are very much in the box position, and any drop of points by them will be bad for their psychology, if we keep winning.
Sure, but they are 11 behind with a game in hand. Pretty reasonable to expect they will be 8 points back when caught up. If it stays that way then we'd be a very similar situation to when we were 8 points back from the rags, with the crucial difference of the head to head being at home for us.
 
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