Pick your sample size. Since Klopp they've won one. In the last decade they've won one. There is only one season where they've won league, so there is only one season where they didn't drop points where it mattered (and it must be said, that was a season where we playing Fernandinho at centre back). Some of those importsnt points, you might remember, were quite dramatic and famous.Hardly relevant - they were shit for 25 of the 30.
3rd time lucky?
What's that got you do with the price of milk?They've won one league in 30 years.
What's that got you do with the price of milk?
We went a fair while with none.
You said they don't drop points when it counts. Clearly, it that were the case, they'd have a few more league titles. They've dropped points when it counted in every season bar one for 30 years.What's that got you do with the price of milk?
We went a fair while with none.
Yep. Football fans, like humans more generally, like patterns and stories, and will fill them in even when they are not there. We aren't owed one by the cosmic football gods for 2012 or 19. If you're in enough title fights you'll lose one eventually, but it'll be on its own terms. This season is entirely in our own hands. For what it's worth, I think it will be something closer to what people predicted in 18/19 with twists and turns, but we make our own luck and story from herein.Said it long ago. This isn't last season. When people were thinking it was done they reckoned that this season was like last season when we decided the title between December and March.
But this league season is not what Liverpool fans hope for either, i.e., a reversal of 18/19 when they were leading by 7 pts and lost the title. History is not likely to repeat itself, in one direction or another This is a unique season, and it will have it's own scenario.
For me, for reasons I have already discussed in various threads, the most likely scenario is that Liverpool will win vs Arsenal and Watford, and will thus go top for 2-3 hours before we win at Burnley, then we'll win/draw vs them, and win the league from there. Even if we lose from them, we can still win the league, though. Think we'll be the fresher team in April, and especially in May.
All scenarios are open now, from Liverpool winning everything to us winning the treble to them winning the league and the league cup and us winning the CL and the FA cup (maybe in games against them!). I wouldn't bet against us winning a PL/CL double in a most dramatic fashion. In any case, this City team is for the biggest occasions and won't let us down, IMHO.
Liverpool fans in work are full of it this morning, my " we'll be fine, we'll still win the title" comment has them stunned.
They all think they'll walk it from here on in haha
Fact is they banked 24 points and gained momentum while we have stuttered. The game at the Ethihad will probably but not certainly decide who wins the title. Liverpool face a challenge during the week which if they overcome it will probably come to us only a point behind. I anticipate an avalanche of wet posteriors around here the day the dippers rock up.Since the 2-2 draw in Jan against Chelsea Liverpool have played....
Brentford H (3-0)
Palace A (3-1)dodgy pen at 2-1
Leicester H (2-0)
Burnley A (1-0)
Norwich H (3-1)
Leeds H (6-0)
West Ham H (1-0) Missed tons of chances
Brighton A (2-0)
No wonder they've won 8 on the bounce.
During that run we had...
Chelsea H
Southampton A
Brentford H
Norwich A
Spurs H
Everton A
Rags H
Palace A
This is false hope mate, really. As the saying in finance goes, past results are not a reliable indicator of future performance. The failing of Liverpool 5 years ago - never mind 20 years ago - are not relevant to the Liverpool of 2022. They didn't have Van Dyke 5 years ago. Klopp was relatively new in the role 5 years ago. etcYou said they don't drop points when it counts. Clearly, it that were the case, they'd have a few more league titles. They've dropped points when it counted in every season bar one for 30 years.
I think you're reading something into my position that I'm not arguing. I don't think Liverpool will drop many points. They're a cracking side. But the idea that they don't drop points when it matters, which is what I was responding to, is based on what? The 8 games against mid-table opposition that they've played in January and February when 8 points behind? Based on previous seasons they do, based on this season they do, based on what?This is false hope mate, really. As the saying in finance goes, past results are not a reliable indicator of future performance. The failing of Liverpool 5 years ago - never mind 20 years ago - are not relevant to the Liverpool of 2022. They didn't have Van Dyke 5 years ago. Klopp was relatively new in the role 5 years ago. etc
Sure they may - and probably will - drop points from here. But so - probably - will we. And we will win the league if we get our shit together, nothing more, nothing less. But the idea that we will win the league just because of some idea that they are bound to bottle it and we are not, is well, just silly.
I'm not missing it mate. You cannot say Liverpool will drop points when it matters, just because they did in (some) recent seasons. Any more than you can say Chelsea will win the league next year because they did in previous years.I think you're reading something into my position that I'm not arguing. I don't think Liverpool will drop many points. They're a cracking side. But the idea that they don't drop points when it matters, which is what I was responding to, is based on what? The 8 games against mid-table opposition that they've played in January and February when 8 points behind? Based on previous seasons they do, based on this season they do, based on what?
Maybe but it’s close. They are forecast to have a GD of 66 while ours is 64.We’ll need one more than Liverpool as they are going to have goal difference