The Top Five Race 2024-25 (poll added)

Will we make the top 5?

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Cobwebcat said:
The thing you are doing (which is human nature) is pointing out the one variable where City don't make it and then creating a situation whereby that becomes more likely in your mind. You are catasrophising.

Nobody is saying it’s impossible. There is no naivety. Ask yourself which of our rivals would swap position with us. Worrying about City losing and all out rivals winning, while ignoring all the other outcomes, makes no sense to me.

We don’t need reminding to be nervous on the day because we all will be anyway.

If you genuinely believe that the odds are wrong and are meaningless take advantage of them.
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It's perfectly appropriate to focus on the single possible (and indeed catastrophic) outcome given some of the posts on this thread. True that nobody has said it's impossible but there are buckets on naivety sloshing about and I'm afraid you may have got wet ;-)
 
TheGhost said:
Forest qualifying is likely to be a one off. Villa, Chelsea and Newcastle qualifying would enable them to really invest and progress and cement their position as challengers.
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At the start of the season, Forest would have been happy with qualifying for the Europa. However, they might be a bit pissed off now having been in the top five for so long.
 
johnny crossan said:
It's perfectly appropriate to focus on the single possible (and indeed catastrophic) outcome given some of the posts on this thread. True that nobody has said it's impossible but there are buckets on naivety sloshing about and I'm afraid you may have got wet ;-)
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I don’t understand what you are trying to achieve?

Are you warning us of impending doom?

How are you quantifying naivety?

Are you saying there is a greater chance we don’t make it than the odds suggest? If so what would your percentage be? If it’s greater than 3% why wouldn’t you have a flutter?

Could it be people are confident while accepting a small chance it could go against us?

Consider that you might be being unrealistically pessimistic.
 
A Fulham, Chelsea, Newcastle, Villa accumulator should have a name, like Yankee, Goliath, Lucky 15 etc

I am canvassing the idea of calling it 'The Catastrophe'.

NB. On this forum the word Fulham is given the squiggly red line treatment, and the suggested spelling is showing as 'Shameful'...just sayin'.
 
Cobwebcat said:
I don’t understand what you are trying to achieve? Are you warning us of impending doom?How are you quantifying naivety? Are you saying there is a greater chance we don’t make it than the odds suggest? If so what would your percentage be? If it’s greater than 3% why wouldn’t you have a flutter? Could it be people are confident while accepting a small chance it could go against us? Consider that you might be being unrealistically pessimistic.
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On the contrary, I think I'm being entirely realistic. My task on this thread is as a mop to deal with the puddles of naive optimism and lack of understanding of just how difficult the task on Sunday may turn out. You and the bookies may think us getting beaten is highly unlikely but those like me who have followed City over the decades have a rather different outlook.
 
TheGhost said:
Forest qualifying is likely to be a one off. Villa, Chelsea and Newcastle qualifying would enable them to really invest and progress and cement their position as challengers.
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However it seems likely that City would like to buy MGW. That does not happen if Forest are in the CL.
 
We're not losing to Fulham.

6 clean sheets in 11, should have been 7 last night.

Only conceded more than one goal in a game once in those last 11.

I don't think we have lost to Fulham away in near 20 years if I recall.

It will be an annihilation.

This team knows what to do.
 
johnny crossan said:
On the contrary, I think I'm being entirely realistic. My task on this thread is as a mop to deal with the puddles of naive optimism and lack of understanding of just how difficult the task on Sunday may turn out. You and the bookies may think us getting beaten is highly unlikely but those like me who have followed City over the decades have a rather different outlook.
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Why is it naive to be optimistic?

We can lose and still qualify for the CL if Forest win or draw. Chelsea haven't been good away from home and Forest have only lost 4 games at the City Ground. So there's rightly optimism on the basis we might already have enough points.

Then you look at Fulham who have been much better away from home than at home this season. They've won 7 games at home. We've lost 2 of our past 9 away games so optimism around us getting at least a point is logical.

Newcastle should get the 3pts but it's not a given. Villa should get the 3pts but stranger things have happened.

There's enough in all that to be optimistic about our chances.
 
johnny crossan said:
On the contrary, I think I'm being entirely realistic. My task on this thread is as a mop to deal with the puddles of naive optimism and lack of understanding of just how difficult the task on Sunday may turn out. You and the bookies may think us getting beaten is highly unlikely but those like me who have followed City over the decades have a rather different outlook.
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Well you have avoided answering most of the questions but that’s OK.

I don’t think many on here are naive at all or have a lack of understanding.

What I do see on here from time to time is posters preparing themselves for the worst in the hope that, if it happens, they will feel better. It doesn’t work. So thanks for your mopping but it’s not for me.

I have also followed City for decades so……
 
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Even if we qualify there's other matters still to be resolved hopefully happily for us. Coming up soon the knowledgeable amongst us are saying.
 
Cobwebcat said:
Well you have avoided answering most of the questions but that’s OK.
I don’t think many on here are naive at all or have a lack of understanding.
What I do see on here from time to time is posters preparing themselves for the worst in the hope that, if it happens, they will feel better. It doesn’t work.
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What questions? The only one I ignored asked why I don't give my money to bookmakers, the rest don't make much sense. I suppose there is some merit in enjoying the hope we might be OK while it lasts ;-)
 
johnny crossan said:
On the contrary, I think I'm being entirely realistic. My task on this thread is as a mop to deal with the puddles of naive optimism and lack of understanding of just how difficult the task on Sunday may turn out. You and the bookies may think us getting beaten is highly unlikely but those like me who have followed City over the decades have a rather different outlook.
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I’ve been following City for decades and my clear memory is that we nearly always deliver on the last day of the season when we need to (‘83 and ‘96 being clear exceptions).

I can give examples if you’re struggling to remember.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I’ve been following City for decades and my clear memory is that we nearly always deliver on the last day of the season when we need to (‘83 and ‘96 being clear exceptions).

I can give examples if you’re struggling to remember.
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It's good to know you're happy to help me recall all the last day deliverances, a few of course are deeply etched but I think we've won less than half of our final fixtures in the PL.
 
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