The Top Five Race 2024-25 (poll added)

Will we make the top 5?

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Coatigan said:
The fact we are even talking about 2nd with three games of the season left, after the run we had in nov-dec, is something.
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It also shows how dismal an effort was put in by the other teams.
When any top team falters, the opposition should be like vultures, taking advantage of their demise.
Chelsea and Villa fighting over a top 5 place!
 
Actually given top five situation looking more positive for us, and even though most important thing to achieve this season is champs league qualification, I think our most important game to win this season is now the cup final. Followed by soton, then bmouth then Fulham which will hopefully be academic by then. Controversial?
 
No1 was Colin bell said:
Actually given top five situation looking more positive for us, and even though most important thing to achieve this season is champs league qualification, I think our most important game to win this season is now the cup final. Followed by soton, then bmouth then Fulham which will hopefully be academic by then. Controversial?
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The most important game is always the next one
 
DenisHasDoneIt said:
1. Liverpool 91pts, GD +49
2. Arsenal 73pts, GD +34
3. City 73 pts, GD +27
4. Chelsea 70 pts, GD +23
5. Villa 69 pts, GD +9
6. Newcastle 67 pts, GD +21
7. Forest 67 pts, GD +13
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Arsenal: 67 - Liverpool (A), Newcastle (H), Southampton (A)
Man City: 64 - Southampton (A), Bournemouth (H), Fulham (A)
Newcastle: 63 - Chelsea (H), Arsenal (A), Everton (H)
Chelsea: 63 - Newcastle (A), Man Utd (H), Nottingham Forest (A)
Nottingham Forest: 61 - Leicester (H), West Ham (A), Chelsea (H)
Aston Villa: 60 - Bournemouth (A), Tottenham (H), Man Utd (A)

even if arsenal drop lots of points (which i doubt), i agree that 69 points probably needed to guarantee CL.

City 73 - win all 3
Newcastle 70 - draw with Arsenal and win the other 2.
Arsenal 69 - lose to Liverpool, draw with Newcastle and bottle it with a Southampton draw
Chelsea 69 - lose to Newcastle but beat Man United and Forest
Villa 69 - win all 3
Forest 67 - lose to Chelsea and win the other 2.
 
Lord Blue said:
Arsenal: 67 - Liverpool (A), Newcastle (H), Southampton (A)
Man City: 64 - Southampton (A), Bournemouth (H), Fulham (A)
Newcastle: 63 - Chelsea (H), Arsenal (A), Everton (H)
Chelsea: 63 - Newcastle (A), Man Utd (H), Nottingham Forest (A)
Nottingham Forest: 61 - Leicester (H), West Ham (A), Chelsea (H)
Aston Villa: 60 - Bournemouth (A), Tottenham (H), Man Utd (A)
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I think Villa can get to 69, which means we better do it too at a very minimum!
 
Coatigan said:
The fact we are even talking about 2nd with three games of the season left, after the run we had in nov-dec, is something.
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Talking about second after the derby just over a month ago would have appeared bonkers. I think everyone was starting to think top five was looking very dicey then.
 
Coatigan said:
The fact we are even talking about 2nd with three games of the season left, after the run we had in nov-dec, is something.
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It's absolutely crazy that we could have a 'disastrous' season and on paper a 2nd place finish and FA Cup final looks great! I can't see Arsenal holding onto 2nd to be honest, their fixtures are hard and their season is over now they've been knocked out of the CL.

It's been a strange league this year, too many teams didn't want to win it and Liverpool got it by default similar to Leicester a few years ago. Next year will be different though, apart from Arsenal bottling it again! :)
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
It's absolutely crazy that we could have a 'disastrous' season and on paper a 2nd place finish and FA Cup final looks great! I can't see Arsenal holding onto 2nd to be honest, their fixtures are hard and their season is over now they've been knocked out of the CL.

It's been a strange league this year, too many teams didn't want to win it and Liverpool got it by default similar to Leicester a few years ago. Next year will be different though, apart from Arsenal bottling it again! :)
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Arsenal should be more thsn capable of winning two of their last three games. Which is whatnit should take for them to secure second.

Yet many wouldn't be surprised of they slipped up. Assuming we can do our part, that is. One game at a time.
 
Coatigan said:
Arsenal should be more thsn capable of winning two of their last three games. Which is whatnit should take for them to secure second.

Yet many wouldn't be surprised of they slipped up. Assuming we can do our part, that is. One game at a time.
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I'll be honest, I don't think I'd back many teams to get 6 points from Liverpool away, Newcastle at home and Southampton away especially Arsenal! Liverpool might be hungover still but still have enough to scare them and Newcastle look like a real form team at the minute. If they can hold on to their players over summer and bring in a couple more they could be outsiders for the title next season. Southampton are a bit of a basket case but when teams have nothing to play for they sometimes play like Brazil 70... :D I'd rather have our run-in than Arsenal's for sure.
 
Cobwebcat said:
Opta predicting 68 will do it but that we will get 70
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Opta are saying Forest will finish 6th on c66 pts. With our goal difference that means we’d need 66 pts.

Also while everybody here has been predicting how many points we’d need, Opta’s model has been predicting 6th will finish on circa 65-66 pts for virtually the last 2 months. People said we’d need 75, Opta said 66. People then said we’d need 72, Opta said 66. Now people are saying 69, Opta still says 66.

It will be about 66-67. Despite these teams proving every week they will drop points, everybody in here seems to keep insisting all four of them will suddenly start winning every game.

Last week Forest and Newcastle dropped points.
The week before that Forest and Villa dropped points.
The week before that Newcastle.
The week before that Chelsea and Forest.

They are all likely to fuck up 1-2 of their final games. Some might fuck up all 3. Every single one of these teams (including us) has had at least one run of 3 games this season without a single win.


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SkyBlueFlux said:
Opta are saying Forest will finish 6th on c66 pts. With our goal difference that means we’d need 66 pts.

Also while everybody here has been predicting how many points we’d need, Opta’s model has been predicting 6th will finish on circa 65-66 pts for virtually the last 2 months. People said we’d need 75, Opta said 66. People then said we’d need 72, Opta said 66. Now people are saying 69, Opta still says 66.

It will be about 66-67. Despite these teams proving every week they will drop points, everybody in here seems to keep insisting all four of them will suddenly start winning every game.

Last week Forest and Newcastle dropped points.
The week before that Forest and Villa dropped points.
The week before that Newcastle.
The week before that Chelsea and Forest.

They are all likely to fuck up 1-2 of their final games. Some might fuck up all 3. Every single one of these teams (including us) has had at least one run of 3 games this season without a single win.


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As I said a while ago in this thread, this isn't like one of the epic title races that City fans have become attuned to over the last decade where any dropped points feel disastrous or even terminal. This is a contest between clubs who are all less than perfect - it's about dropping the fewest points rather than not being able to drop any at all.
 
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