The Tottenham Thread 13/14 (continued)

[Deleted member 41424]

Sherwood needs to go with this starting 11 till the end of the season -

Friedel
Walker-Dawson-Vertonghen-Rose
Dembele-Eriksen
Lennon-Sigurdsson-Townsend
Adebayor

 

[BigOscar]

Sherwood needs to go with this starting 11 till the end of the season -

Friedel
Walker-Dawson-Vertonghen-Rose
Dembele-Eriksen
Lennon-Sigurdsson-Townsend
Adebayor

To make sure they lose every game?

 

[super_city_si]

Sherwood needs to go with this starting 11 till the end of the season -

Friedel
Walker-Dawson-Vertonghen-Rose
Dembele-Eriksen
Lennon-Sigurdsson-Townsend
Adebayor

To make sure they lose every game?

Ha ha. Danny Rose is awful. He's still living off that goal he scored against Arsenal. The fact I am even pointing out Rose as being awful in a team that contains Walker shows just how bad he is.

 

[Pam]

Sherwood needs to go with this starting 11 till the end of the season -

Friedel
Walker-Dawson-Vertonghen-Rose
Dembele-Eriksen
Lennon-Sigurdsson-Townsend
Adebayor

To make sure they lose every game?

Ha ha. Danny Rose is awful. He's still living off that goal he scored against Arsenal. The fact I am even pointing out Rose as being awful in a team that contains Walker shows just how bad he is.

God, I remember that game because the stupid bastards at Sky played "Kissed by a Rose" (that bloody Seal song) in the closing credits and I have hated Spurs ever since. And on Sunday I have to hope the odious Spud twats win and then I have to hope the scum win two hours later. None of this is right, is it?

Jesus,Navas and Joseph.

 

[Speaker]

We'll lose to Arsenal by a couple, really don't see in any way how it could go any differently. In a way hoping to lose by 3 or 4 (which looks highly likely anyway) so that Sherwood gets the tic-tac immediately so i don't have to look at his stupid face anymore.

His interview after the Chelsea game was just fucking hilarious. This is the guy who said that he did not want to sign any players in January as we already have too many and he is happy with the squad. Fast forward to the Chelsea game and all of a sudden he starts whining about the lack of chracters and the lack of cover he had in the squad. That's what January is for Sherwood you fucking mongoloid. How in god's name we ended both the summer and winter transfer windows with 0 left backs will always be a mystery to me.

Danny Rose is quite possibly the worst player I have ever seen play for Tottenham in all my life, and I've had to sit throught the likes of Bunjevcevic and Timothee Atouba.

The one good thing is that in the summer due to some miracle some foolish team will over £20m+ for Vertonghen, when he is barely worth a packet of wotsits. Vertonghen honestly believes that he is the second coming of Beckenbauer, when really he is the second coming of Pascal Cygan.

AVB's dismissal was contentious. I will admit it is difficult to keep your manager about after tonkings from City, West Ham, and Liverpool. However, when AVB was fired he had lost 6 games out of 26 this year and was still in all of the cups. Since Sherwood has taken over he has lost 7 out of 18 games and got us knocked out of 3 competitions...

I personally don't think that you should be managing a professional football team if you haven't even completed all of your coaching badges. So when I say that it is bewildering that a team with (supposed) top of the table ambitions would ever hire an unqualified manager with absolutely no experience, I want it to be known that I would be equally shocked if a team from the lower reaches of the championship hired someone with Sherwood's (lack of) managerial career.

If we don't get LVG in the summer then (after Sherwood) I would not be suprised if we hired a 15 year old from Slovenia who managed to go the season undefeated on Football Manager.

 

[supercrystal7]

AVB had his faults and one of them was refusing to accept a loss and keeping the score respectable. Chelsea fans mentioned this when they got beat 5-3 at Arsenal. He does not alter his tactics during the game enough and when it's not working his team can take a beating. That being said he was still a young manager and improving. The Liverpool game is the perfect example where he should have changed things after 20 minutes. Mourinho or Mancini would have. In fact Mancini made a similar change in the Chelsea game a few weeks ago.

The awful Tottenham defence was apparent for a long time and it's shocking they did nothing about this. Levy also did not back AVB in the transfer market. Haggling over the price of Moutinho is stupid, when you need to realise that all managers need players they can trust and understand them. Moutinho's value as AVB's meant he would be more important to Tottenham than other clubs.

I said it in another thread, but the only bonus Tottenham have is that virtually all their squad has a high resale value. They can get rid of the players they don't want and use it to fund a new stronger more balanced team.

 

[LoveCity]

IMO, Tottenham are a lesson in the dangers of armchair scouting where a player looks awesome and people instantly think he'd be a great signing.

Lamela, Eriksen, Soldado, Paulinho, Capoue were all linked with top clubs and are all fine players, but it's not as simple as that.

A scout's job (and also a director of football's) is to look beyond individual talent, which they all have. There are so many things that have to be considered, such as their personality types and compatibility with the team philosophy and Spurs acted like they were playing Football Manager last summer, signing the latest batch of highly rated young players without any thought on the style of football the team will play and how each will fit in.

On the contrary, if you look at City, they signed Negredo, Navas and Fernandinho and all slotted seamlessly into our style and philosophy. Jovetic also probably would if he could stay fit. That's a strategy, something Spurs still lack (it probably doesn't help when you have an English chief, Portuguese manager and Italian sports director with different views/backgrounds).

Spurs spent all the Bale money in one go and have blown their chance to go places in the immediate future. Apparently, AVB didn't want many of them but Baldini went and signed them and now Spurs will have to sell several on the cheap (Paulinho will still be a top player in England though, I reckon... and probably Eriksen) and start again but on a smaller budget. Apparently Milner is one they want, hopefully we tie him down to a new contract though.

 

[BigOscar]

I think they massively suffered for not trusting the manager. AVB, like most managers, had a very specific way he wanted to play, so needed very specific types of players to fit that system. He told Baldini and Levi who he wanted, and they came back with different players who they thought were "similar", but they thought were better value. Obviously that's doomed to fail, as what they think is similar about the players isn't neccesarily what attracted the manager to them. Instead of Moutinho and Hulk, he ends up with Lamela and Eriksen, along with a host of other players he didn't want.

As a result, they now have a bunch of players who don't really fit into any particular system, they alienated the manager and then fired him to cover their own mistakes, then hired a man based on absolutely nothing, who clearly has no idea what he's doing. Inevitably, Sherwood will take responsibility and be fired, many of the players will leave for losses, while Levi remains, despite him being the one at fault.

 

[MCFC4EVR]

I think they massively suffered for not trusting the manager. AVB, like most managers, had a very specific way he wanted to play, so needed very specific types of players to fit that system. He told Baldini and Levi who he wanted, and they came back with different players who they thought were "similar", but they thought were better value. Obviously that's doomed to fail, as what they think is similar about the players isn't neccesarily what attracted the manager to them. Instead of Moutinho and Hulk, he ends up with Lamela and Eriksen, along with a host of other players he didn't want.

As a result, they now have a bunch of players who don't really fit into any particular system, they alienated the manager and then fired him to cover their own mistakes, then hired a man based on absolutely nothing, who clearly has no idea what he's doing. Inevitably, Sherwood will take responsibility and be fired, many of the players will leave for losses, while Levi remains, despite him being the one at fault.

To be fair to Daniel Levy they were never gonna get Hulk because Zenit spent 60m on him. The Moutinho one also seemed complicated with the 3rd party ownership and then by the summer Monaco came in for him. Lamela and Eriksen are both great players that haven't been played in their best positions and both will come good. The Soldado transfer was a poor one don't think he's suited to this league but then again they tried to get Negredo first.

 

[Bilboblue]

AVB had his faults and one of them was refusing to accept a loss and keeping the score respectable. Chelsea fans mentioned this when they got beat 5-3 at Arsenal. He does not alter his tactics during the game enough and when it's not working his team can take a beating. That being said he was still a young manager and improving. The Liverpool game is the perfect example where he should have changed things after 20 minutes. Mourinho or Mancini would have. In fact Mancini made a similar change in the Chelsea game a few weeks ago.

The awful Tottenham defence was apparent for a long time and it's shocking they did nothing about this. Levy also did not back AVB in the transfer market. Haggling over the price of Moutinho is stupid, when you need to realise that all managers need players they can trust and understand them. Moutinho's value as AVB's meant he would be more important to Tottenham than other clubs.

I said it in another thread, but the only bonus Tottenham have is that virtually all their squad has a high resale value. They can get rid of the players they don't want and use it to fund a new stronger more balanced team.

I think you can call allowing AVB the Bale cash plus more, IS backing him up in the transfer market, surely?