The Tottenham Thread 13/14 part 2.

[Bill]

You still have Parker down as a £3.5m income when the press report it as a free you lying twat.

One report, which got it wrong.

Every other one clearly states a fee was involved.

Including the BBC...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23761927

I don't expect an apology, but please refrain from calling me a "lying twat" in the future, there's a good chap.

Why? You are a lying twat.

what the fuck is this shit. either respond properly to the lad or leave the fucking thread.

 

[Crouchinho]

We can afford all these deals without selling Bale... whether he stays or goes is another matter...

So why the sudden change to spending money?

You know it's the Bale money in advance so you don't get rinsed like Pool did when they sold Torres.

It#s OK though, no one minds.

-- Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:43 pm --

For those chirping about FFP's and "Bale Money" need to learn a thing or two...

This is a City forum you cockwomble, we don't chirp, we post. If anyone is "chirping up" it's you.

I am starting to understand your hatred of that bunch of lilley white cunts.

Joe Lewis gave Spurs a 50m interest free loan so we could not get pipped for fourth again. What started as spending the 50m is now spending the Bale money (in my opinion) he still 'may' play another year with us agreeing a sale at the end of the season like United did with Ronaldo

80m-85m Bale sale, 50m loan from Lewis. Because of wage contracts we won't be spending all that 130m.

Everytime I"ve watched Willian play he's not impressed me an awful lot, maybe I just watched the wrong games. Lamela on the other hand I see a lot of and always liked. I think he could play in the hole or upfront with Soldado and do a great job, he sometimes reminds me of a cross between Torres and Suarez, obviously not that good yet. I would have been happy with just Osvaldo but Lamela more so

 

[GHoddle]

We can afford all these deals without selling Bale... whether he stays or goes is another matter...

So why the sudden change to spending money?

You know it's the Bale money in advance so you don't get rinsed like Pool did when they sold Torres.

It#s OK though, no one minds.

I think you're right that we know that the money from Bale will offset what we've spent on many of these deals so far.

I do also think though that we'll have a significant net spend this window. If we get 90 million for Bale, and around another 40 from other outgoings (it's around 20-25 so far I believe, and we could still sell a striker, BAE, and possibly Sigurdsson), we would have 130m in, and if we buy Coentrao, Willian, and Lamela, that will take our spending to about 130 million. I still think we'd spend another 30-40 on a striker/#10 and a defender. Joe Lewis has made the money available to do so.

Btw don't accuse me of being an accountant lol, I only care about the money side of it in order to see how much we have left to spend. I don't care how big a profit or loss we make off it as long as we get the right players in.

 

[SWP's back]

One report, which got it wrong.

Every other one clearly states a fee was involved.

Including the BBC...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23761927

I don't expect an apology, but please refrain from calling me a "lying twat" in the future, there's a good chap.

Why? You are a lying twat.

what the fuck is this shit. either respond properly to the lad or leave the fucking thread.

Yeah noted. He is a liar mind. But now I know you're on my case I'll be sure to put a smiley next time I tell a home truth. Oh and brilliant repeated use of "fuck", really got the point across. And "lad"? He is older than you.

 

[City Raider]

For those chirping about FFP's and "Bale Money" need to learn a thing or two...

Firstly, since AVB arrived, player sales/loans (with fees) up to and including the sale of Scott Parker = £97m

In the same period of time, player purchases up to and including Capoue = £115m

Meaning, across 3 transfer windows AVB has a nett spend of: £18m or an avge of £6m per window...

Players sold: VDV (£11m), Modric (£32m), Corluka (£6m), Kranjcar (£7m), Bassong (£5m), Parker (£4m), THud (£5.5m), Dempsey (£6m), Caulker (£9m), Rose ( £1m loan fee), Livermore (£0.5m loan fee), Townsend (£0.5m loan fee), GDS £4.5m (£1.5m sale fee/£3m sell-on clause this summer), Pienaar (£5m) = £97m


Players bought: Adebayor (£4.5m), Lloris (£10m), Vertonghen (£9m), Dempsey (£6m), Chadli (£7m), Holtby (£1.5m), Soldado (£25.5m), Paulinho (£17m), Dembele (£15m), Gylfi (£7.5m), Fryers (£3m), Capoue (£9m) = £115m

So you see, having spent practically nothing (zero nett spend) the previous 3 or 4 windows under HR, means that Levy can now afford to fund some serious purchases without breaking the bank, borrowing money or selling the family silver, so to speak...

We can afford all these deals without selling Bale... whether he stays or goes is another matter...

He might look at the quality coming in Willian, Lamela and Coentrao all rumoured to be very close, and he might think, shit, I want to stay, I doubt it, but you never know...

One thing is for sure, there is never going to be a chance of us failing to comply with FFP's with DL in charge...

With the increased TV revenue, a one year deal on shirt sponsorships worth £19m (that's £13m from HP, £6m from AIA), European football again (ok not CL money), the club is in fine fettle with a squad (even without Bale) that is much stronger in depth than last season...

If Bale goes, that's a whole chunk of money (plus the €20m they still owe us for Modric) that could go on further strengthening next summer....

Lastly, the other reason the financial shackles have come off now... the new training facility is finished and paid for... without having to borrow money from anywhere or anyone...

For a club that's spent over half a billion to win 2 league cups since the prem began, you all seem very concerned with convincing city fans its ok for you to spend money

we don't mind you winning the odd league cup, so please spend away

 

[THFC6061]

For those chirping about FFP's and "Bale Money" need to learn a thing or two...

Firstly, since AVB arrived, player sales/loans (with fees) up to and including the sale of Scott Parker = £97m

In the same period of time, player purchases up to and including Capoue = £115m

Meaning, across 3 transfer windows AVB has a nett spend of: £18m or an avge of £6m per window...

Players sold: VDV (£11m), Modric (£32m), Corluka (£6m), Kranjcar (£7m), Bassong (£5m), Parker (£4m), THud (£5.5m), Dempsey (£6m), Caulker (£9m), Rose ( £1m loan fee), Livermore (£0.5m loan fee), Townsend (£0.5m loan fee), GDS £4.5m (£1.5m sale fee/£3m sell-on clause this summer), Pienaar (£5m) = £97m


Players bought: Adebayor (£4.5m), Lloris (£10m), Vertonghen (£9m), Dempsey (£6m), Chadli (£7m), Holtby (£1.5m), Soldado (£25.5m), Paulinho (£17m), Dembele (£15m), Gylfi (£7.5m), Fryers (£3m), Capoue (£9m) = £115m

So you see, having spent practically nothing (zero nett spend) the previous 3 or 4 windows under HR, means that Levy can now afford to fund some serious purchases without breaking the bank, borrowing money or selling the family silver, so to speak...

We can afford all these deals without selling Bale... whether he stays or goes is another matter...

He might look at the quality coming in Willian, Lamela and Coentrao all rumoured to be very close, and he might think, shit, I want to stay, I doubt it, but you never know...

One thing is for sure, there is never going to be a chance of us failing to comply with FFP's with DL in charge...

With the increased TV revenue, a one year deal on shirt sponsorships worth £19m (that's £13m from HP, £6m from AIA), European football again (ok not CL money), the club is in fine fettle with a squad (even without Bale) that is much stronger in depth than last season...

If Bale goes, that's a whole chunk of money (plus the €20m they still owe us for Modric) that could go on further strengthening next summer....

Lastly, the other reason the financial shackles have come off now... the new training facility is finished and paid for... without having to borrow money from anywhere or anyone...

For a club that's spent over half a billion to win 2 league cups since the prem began, you all seem very concerned with convincing city fans its ok for you to spend money

we don't mind you winning the odd league cup, so please carry on

You see, that's the problem right there.

Spurs have spent nowhere near half a billion pounds to win our two trophies.

Why do you insist on disregarding the revenues we generated from selling players on and only count the players bought from the cash the sales generated?

 

[Bill]

Why? You are a lying twat.

what the fuck is this shit. either respond properly to the lad or leave the fucking thread.

Yeah noted. He is a liar mind. But now I know you're on my case I'll be sure to put a smiley next time I tell a home truth. Oh and brilliant repeated use of "fuck", really got the point across. And "lad"? He is older than you.

I am not "on your case" I am on this thread.
a liar he may be I have no idea but what we don't do is let our guard down and let visitors from other clubs think they are treated this way. there are better ways of proving a poster wrong rather than the way your post displayed.

 

[Scouse_Jimi]

41 million Euros for Willian...I'm glad we didn't match that fee, silly money

 

[SWP's back]

For those chirping about FFP's and "Bale Money" need to learn a thing or two...

Firstly, since AVB arrived, player sales/loans (with fees) up to and including the sale of Scott Parker = £97m

In the same period of time, player purchases up to and including Capoue = £115m

Meaning, across 3 transfer windows AVB has a nett spend of: £18m or an avge of £6m per window...

Players sold: VDV (£11m), Modric (£32m), Corluka (£6m), Kranjcar (£7m), Bassong (£5m), Parker (£4m), THud (£5.5m), Dempsey (£6m), Caulker (£9m), Rose ( £1m loan fee), Livermore (£0.5m loan fee), Townsend (£0.5m loan fee), GDS £4.5m (£1.5m sale fee/£3m sell-on clause this summer), Pienaar (£5m) = £97m


Players bought: Adebayor (£4.5m), Lloris (£10m), Vertonghen (£9m), Dempsey (£6m), Chadli (£7m), Holtby (£1.5m), Soldado (£25.5m), Paulinho (£17m), Dembele (£15m), Gylfi (£7.5m), Fryers (£3m), Capoue (£9m) = £115m

So you see, having spent practically nothing (zero nett spend) the previous 3 or 4 windows under HR, means that Levy can now afford to fund some serious purchases without breaking the bank, borrowing money or selling the family silver, so to speak...

We can afford all these deals without selling Bale... whether he stays or goes is another matter...

He might look at the quality coming in Willian, Lamela and Coentrao all rumoured to be very close, and he might think, shit, I want to stay, I doubt it, but you never know...

One thing is for sure, there is never going to be a chance of us failing to comply with FFP's with DL in charge...

With the increased TV revenue, a one year deal on shirt sponsorships worth £19m (that's £13m from HP, £6m from AIA), European football again (ok not CL money), the club is in fine fettle with a squad (even without Bale) that is much stronger in depth than last season...

If Bale goes, that's a whole chunk of money (plus the €20m they still owe us for Modric) that could go on further strengthening next summer....

Lastly, the other reason the financial shackles have come off now... the new training facility is finished and paid for... without having to borrow money from anywhere or anyone...

For a club that's spent over half a billion to win 2 league cups since the prem began, you all seem very concerned with convincing city fans its ok for you to spend money

we don't mind you winning the odd league cup, so please carry on

You see, that's the problem right there.

Spurs have spent nowhere near half a billion pounds to win our two trophies.

Why do you insist on disregarding the revenues we generated from selling players on and only count the players bought from the cash the sales generated?

You have still spent that money in trying to find a half decent team (and failing on the whole as proven by your high turnover of players.)

 

[The Flash]

For those chirping about FFP's and "Bale Money" need to learn a thing or two...

Firstly, since AVB arrived, player sales/loans (with fees) up to and including the sale of Scott Parker = £97m

In the same period of time, player purchases up to and including Capoue = £115m

Meaning, across 3 transfer windows AVB has a nett spend of: £18m or an avge of £6m per window...

Players sold: VDV (£11m), Modric (£32m), Corluka (£6m), Kranjcar (£7m), Bassong (£5m), Parker (£4m), THud (£5.5m), Dempsey (£6m), Caulker (£9m), Rose ( £1m loan fee), Livermore (£0.5m loan fee), Townsend (£0.5m loan fee), GDS £4.5m (£1.5m sale fee/£3m sell-on clause this summer), Pienaar (£5m) = £97m


Players bought: Adebayor (£4.5m), Lloris (£10m), Vertonghen (£9m), Dempsey (£6m), Chadli (£7m), Holtby (£1.5m), Soldado (£25.5m), Paulinho (£17m), Dembele (£15m), Gylfi (£7.5m), Fryers (£3m), Capoue (£9m) = £115m

So you see, having spent practically nothing (zero nett spend) the previous 3 or 4 windows under HR, means that Levy can now afford to fund some serious purchases without breaking the bank, borrowing money or selling the family silver, so to speak...

We can afford all these deals without selling Bale... whether he stays or goes is another matter...

He might look at the quality coming in Willian, Lamela and Coentrao all rumoured to be very close, and he might think, shit, I want to stay, I doubt it, but you never know...

One thing is for sure, there is never going to be a chance of us failing to comply with FFP's with DL in charge...

With the increased TV revenue, a one year deal on shirt sponsorships worth £19m (that's £13m from HP, £6m from AIA), European football again (ok not CL money), the club is in fine fettle with a squad (even without Bale) that is much stronger in depth than last season...

If Bale goes, that's a whole chunk of money (plus the €20m they still owe us for Modric) that could go on further strengthening next summer....

Lastly, the other reason the financial shackles have come off now... the new training facility is finished and paid for... without having to borrow money from anywhere or anyone...

For a club that's spent over half a billion to win 2 league cups since the prem began, you all seem very concerned with convincing city fans its ok for you to spend money

we don't mind you winning the odd league cup, so please carry on

You see, that's the problem right there.

Spurs have spent nowhere near half a billion pounds to win our two trophies.

Why do you insist on disregarding the revenues we generated from selling players on and only count the players bought from the cash the sales generated?

What's the figure then?

 

[City Raider]

For those chirping about FFP's and "Bale Money" need to learn a thing or two...

Firstly, since AVB arrived, player sales/loans (with fees) up to and including the sale of Scott Parker = £97m

In the same period of time, player purchases up to and including Capoue = £115m

Meaning, across 3 transfer windows AVB has a nett spend of: £18m or an avge of £6m per window...

Players sold: VDV (£11m), Modric (£32m), Corluka (£6m), Kranjcar (£7m), Bassong (£5m), Parker (£4m), THud (£5.5m), Dempsey (£6m), Caulker (£9m), Rose ( £1m loan fee), Livermore (£0.5m loan fee), Townsend (£0.5m loan fee), GDS £4.5m (£1.5m sale fee/£3m sell-on clause this summer), Pienaar (£5m) = £97m


Players bought: Adebayor (£4.5m), Lloris (£10m), Vertonghen (£9m), Dempsey (£6m), Chadli (£7m), Holtby (£1.5m), Soldado (£25.5m), Paulinho (£17m), Dembele (£15m), Gylfi (£7.5m), Fryers (£3m), Capoue (£9m) = £115m

So you see, having spent practically nothing (zero nett spend) the previous 3 or 4 windows under HR, means that Levy can now afford to fund some serious purchases without breaking the bank, borrowing money or selling the family silver, so to speak...

We can afford all these deals without selling Bale... whether he stays or goes is another matter...

He might look at the quality coming in Willian, Lamela and Coentrao all rumoured to be very close, and he might think, shit, I want to stay, I doubt it, but you never know...

One thing is for sure, there is never going to be a chance of us failing to comply with FFP's with DL in charge...

With the increased TV revenue, a one year deal on shirt sponsorships worth £19m (that's £13m from HP, £6m from AIA), European football again (ok not CL money), the club is in fine fettle with a squad (even without Bale) that is much stronger in depth than last season...

If Bale goes, that's a whole chunk of money (plus the €20m they still owe us for Modric) that could go on further strengthening next summer....

Lastly, the other reason the financial shackles have come off now... the new training facility is finished and paid for... without having to borrow money from anywhere or anyone...

For a club that's spent over half a billion to win 2 league cups since the prem began, you all seem very concerned with convincing city fans its ok for you to spend money

we don't mind you winning the odd league cup, so please carry on

You see, that's the problem right there.

Spurs have spent nowhere near half a billion pounds to win our two trophies.

Why do you insist on disregarding the revenues we generated from selling players on and only count the players bought from the cash the sales generated?

Because you initially bought those players to win trophies, selling them again is an indication of failure - your investment in 2 league cups is therefore half a billion - a bit steep but well done

 

[THFC6061]

For a club that's spent over half a billion to win 2 league cups since the prem began, you all seem very concerned with convincing city fans its ok for you to spend money

we don't mind you winning the odd league cup, so please carry on

You see, that's the problem right there.

Spurs have spent nowhere near half a billion pounds to win our two trophies.

Why do you insist on disregarding the revenues we generated from selling players on and only count the players bought from the cash the sales generated?

You have still spent that money in trying to find a half decent team (and failing on the whole as proven by your high turnover of players.)

My point is that you're more than happy to count the £16,505,000 Spurs paid Dinamo Zagreb for Luka Modric, but not the £33,300,000 we received from Real Madrid for him.

To say that Spurs have spent half a billion pounds during the Premier League Era is simply false.

Our actual spend to date has been £175,309,820.

Quite a difference, I'm sure you'll agree?

 

[SWP's back]

what the fuck is this shit. either respond properly to the lad or leave the fucking thread.

Yeah noted. He is a liar mind. But now I know you're on my case I'll be sure to put a smiley next time I tell a home truth. Oh and brilliant repeated use of "fuck", really got the point across. And "lad"? He is older than you.

I am not "on your case" I am on this thread.
a liar he may be I have no idea but what we don't do is let our guard down and let visitors from other clubs think they are treated this way. there are better ways of proving a poster wrong rather than the way your post displayed.

I presumed you are on my case as bilboblue called him the same before my post that you highlighted (the page before) you see.

OK well stick in this thread for the next month or two and then how your patience is with him. Hell, just read the last 20 pages if you've got twenty minutes. I am more than aware of the CoC and how to treat people nicely hence no warnings in 18 months but our Israeli friend would try the patience of a saint.

Firstly he is obsessed with the fact our owners are "Arabs" and he has been banned before for casual racism.

He makes dig after dig about our club, just nice and sly ones, a la

City played very well indeed against a woeful Newcastle side reduced to 10 men.

He uses the dodgy figures, always choosing the ones that make City look like they have paid and inflated price and the reverse for the Spuds.

And he always bemoans our "Arab sugar daddy" as Spurs do things "the right way".

If you believe any of the above to be false or hyperbole, check with squirty and stony who have been ever present in the thread. But as I say, I'll be sure to put a smiley if I call him a wumming lying twat again as I am told that is allowed because it takes the edge off. :-)

 

[The Flash]

You see, that's the problem right there.

Spurs have spent nowhere near half a billion pounds to win our two trophies.

Why do you insist on disregarding the revenues we generated from selling players on and only count the players bought from the cash the sales generated?

You have still spent that money in trying to find a half decent team (and failing on the whole as proven by your high turnover of players.)

My point is that you're more than happy to count the £16,505,000 Spurs paid Dinamo Zagreb for Luka Modric, but not the £33,300,000 we received from Real Madrid for him.

To say that Spurs have spent half a billion pounds during the Premier League Era is simply false.

Our actual spend to date has been £175,309,820.

Quite a difference, I'm sure you'll agree?

£175m for two league cups?

Amazing.

Have you factored in all the compo you've had to fork out for sacking managers and back room staff over the years?

 

[stony]

I am starting to understand your hatred of that bunch of lilley white cunts.

You should check out glory glory. Navas is just a Spanish Aaron Lennon, Negredo not a patch on Soldado, Fernandinho is Paulinho's understudy and nowhere near as good. Strangely on last nights match thread they were remarkably quiet about him. Apart from one spurs fan who said "I'm not impressed by him" Then there are the usual "dirty Arab money, empty seats, plastic fans" jibes.
A couple of years ago they were busy telling everyone that brave Scotty Parker was better than DeJong.

Take a generous helping of red scouse delusion
a pinch of blue scouse resentment
a handful of Arsenal entitlement
and a huge dollop of rag arrogance

Mix well and leave until it festers and then you have a Spurs fan.

 

[SWP's back]

You see, that's the problem right there.

Spurs have spent nowhere near half a billion pounds to win our two trophies.

Why do you insist on disregarding the revenues we generated from selling players on and only count the players bought from the cash the sales generated?

You have still spent that money in trying to find a half decent team (and failing on the whole as proven by your high turnover of players.)

My point is that you're more than happy to count the £16,505,000 Spurs paid Dinamo Zagreb for Luka Modric, but not the £33,300,000 we received from Real Madrid for him.

To say that Spurs have spent half a billion pounds during the Premier League Era is simply false.

Our actual spend to date has been £175,309,820.

Quite a difference, I'm sure you'll agree?

But our gross spend is always the one mentioned by the press, not net, should it not be the same for you?

Put it this way? Did we spend £20m on Balotelli or nothing as we sold him for the same?

 

[THFC6061]

You have still spent that money in trying to find a half decent team (and failing on the whole as proven by your high turnover of players.)

My point is that you're more than happy to count the £16,505,000 Spurs paid Dinamo Zagreb for Luka Modric, but not the £33,300,000 we received from Real Madrid for him.

To say that Spurs have spent half a billion pounds during the Premier League Era is simply false.

Our actual spend to date has been £175,309,820.

Quite a difference, I'm sure you'll agree?

But our gross spend is always the one mentioned by the press, not net, should it not be the same for you?

Put it this way? Did we spend £20m on Balotelli or nothing as we sold him for the same?

I think City lost around €9.5 million on Balotelli, although you might get a bit more back if he meets various "add-on" targets with AC Milan.

City's net spend during the past five years is around £390,150,000 compared with Tottenham's £7,650,000 in the same period.

 

[SWP's back]

I think City lost around €9.5 million on Balotelli,

How do you work that out?

Inter's official accounting of his fee is 21.8 million Euros

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.ju29ro.com/contro-informazione/2714-inter-una-tripletta-in-rosso.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ju29ro.com/contro-informazio ... rosso.html</a>

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Balotelli#2010.E2.80.9311" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Balo ... E2.80.9311</a>

 

[stony]

Yeah noted. He is a liar mind. But now I know you're on my case I'll be sure to put a smiley next time I tell a home truth. Oh and brilliant repeated use of "fuck", really got the point across. And "lad"? He is older than you.

I am not "on your case" I am on this thread.
a liar he may be I have no idea but what we don't do is let our guard down and let visitors from other clubs think they are treated this way. there are better ways of proving a poster wrong rather than the way your post displayed.

I presumed you are on my case as bilboblue called him the same before my post that you highlighted (the page before) you see.

OK well stick in this thread for the next month or two and then how your patience is with him. Hell, just read the last 20 pages if you've got twenty minutes. I am more than aware of the CoC and how to treat people nicely hence no warnings in 18 months but our Israeli friend would try the patience of a saint.

Firstly he is obsessed with the fact our owners are "Arabs" and he has been banned before for casual racism.

He makes dig after dig about our club, just nice and sly ones, a la

City played very well indeed against a woeful Newcastle side reduced to 10 men.

He uses the dodgy figures, always choosing the ones that make City look like they have paid and inflated price and the reverse for the Spuds.

And he always bemoans our "Arab sugar daddy" as Spurs do things "the right way".

If you believe any of the above to be false or hyperbole, check with squirty and stony who have been ever present in the thread. But as I say, I'll be sure to put a smiley if I call him a wumming lying twat again as I am told that is allowed because it takes the edge off. :-)

I can vouch for this.

 

[squirtyflower]

My point is that you're more than happy to count the £16,505,000 Spurs paid Dinamo Zagreb for Luka Modric, but not the £33,300,000 we received from Real Madrid for him.

To say that Spurs have spent half a billion pounds during the Premier League Era is simply false.

Our actual spend to date has been £175,309,820.

Quite a difference, I'm sure you'll agree?

But our gross spend is always the one mentioned by the press, not net, should it not be the same for you?

Put it this way? Did we spend £20m on Balotelli or nothing as we sold him for the same?

I think City lost around €9.5 million on Balotelli, although you might get a bit more back if he meets various "add-on" targets with AC Milan.

City's net spend during the past five years is around £390,150,000 compared with Tottenham's £7,650,000 in the same period.

and that one Aguero moment......... priceless