The Tottenham Thread 13/14 part 3.

[Gaylord du Bois]

Glory me.

 

[SiMCFC]

Now who's the joke club pahaha brilliant, get old wobbly chops back

 

[foxy]

CYA. again the real problem still persist denial leavy

He is a twunt. Leave footballing matters to the football people. Always looks a tit in his Tottingham coat at games as if he's part of the football management team.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Ha Ha
You can never stop laughing at this club.

 

[marco]

possible candidates?

 

[waterloo blue]

Panic sacking,but not totally unexpected.
Twitcher to return?.

 

[marco]

Panic sacking,but not totally unexpected.
Twitcher to return?.

yeh sell players cheap spend another 100 million win nothing and get sacked

 

[AntiUnited]

CYA. again the real problem still persist denial leavy

He is a twunt. Leave footballing matters to the football people. Always looks a tit in his Tottingham coat at games as if he's part of the football management team.

He only cares about making money... tbh hes fukin useless at actual football matters. and to the peeps that think avb had anything to do with the farsical signings.

 

[Sky Blue]

Come on mods let Steffi back on for as week

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Latest Oddschecker odds on the new Spuds gaffer;

Crapello 4/1
Hiddink 5/1
Laudrup 7/1
Sherwood 7/1
Bonkers Hoddle 10/1.

 

[foxy]

CYA. again the real problem still persist denial leavy

He is a twunt. Leave footballing matters to the football people. Always looks a tit in his Tottingham coat at games as if he's part of the football management team.

He only cares about making money... tbh hes fukin useless at actual football matters. and to the peeps that think avb had anything to do with the farsical signings.

AVB was a bad appointment, looked like Levy wanted to prove a point to Chelsea. He should have kept with Twitcher who was only sacked for saying he'd like to manage England.

 

[80s Shorts]

Get somebody decent in and have "new manager syndrome" in time for 1st Jan :-)

 

[mancityvstoke]

pie chart please

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

pie chart please

Sadly THFC6061 the Tel Aviv tosspot is no longer able to inflict his lurid, eye-watering technicolour monstrosities upon us, due to being banned, although personally I think that today would be an ideal time to welcome him back, so that we can take the piss all day, and then ban him again tomorrow before he has time to construct a Venn diagram showing us that AVB was actually the most successful gaffer of all time, if you ignore matches lost, money wasted and trophies not won.

 

[George Hannah]

pie chart please

Sadly THFC6061 the Tel Aviv tosspot is no longer able to inflict his lurid, eye-watering technicolour monstrosities upon us, due to being banned, although personally I think that today would be an ideal time to welcome him back, so that we can take the piss all day, and then ban him again tomorrow before he has time to construct a Venn diagram showing us that AVB was actually the most successful gaffer of all time, if you ignore matches lost, money wasted and trophies not won.

I also think it would be a humanitarian gesture to allow him to speak

 

[Carstairs]

Free the Tel Aviv One!

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Spuds have just drawn some Ukrainian team who's name I can neither pronounce or spell, but scores about 1360 points in a game of Scrabble.
Apparently they are managed by ex-Spud Juande I May Actually Win A Fucking Game Ramos.

 

[Matty]

Spuds have just drawn some Ukrainian team who's name I can neither pronounce or spell, but scores about 1360 points in a game of Scrabble.
Apparently they are managed by ex-Spud Juande I May Actually Win A Fucking Game Ramos.

If they get throught that they'll be up against either PAOK Salonica or Benfica.

Swansea got it tough, they play Napoli, and then possibly Eintracht Frankfurt or Porto.

 

[Scouse_Jimi]

Tells you all you need to know about Spurs this year:

 

[supercrystal7]

This is very true and something I often say. It's for this why I say things like PSG have great players, but are a joke selection wise. Baldini made a mess of the signings and Souness was spot on about there being no balance.

That being said AVB discovered the best possible mix on Thursday. Tottenham fans complained about the build up being slow, but what they don't realise is that no manage tells his team to pass the ball slowly. It's due to the players not being familiar with each other and lacking sufficient technical ability. Dembele and Sandro lacks anyone with the required passing technique. AVB should have started Holtby in the centre.

I would have bet my right foot that Sandro was just grimacing through the warm up and said the same thing to my housemate. He should have known his players better.

Naughton was terrible and should not have played.

Even though Soldaldo had got the hat trick in midweek, Defoe had been part of the 'Premiership' team which had won the last two and did not deserve to be dropped.

Townsend should have started on the left.

Then there were the tactics. The high line is fine, but then you need you front players to work very hard and put pressure on the opposition defenders. The Tottenham front players did not work hard giving Liverpool time and space to pick balls behind the back. Southampton and Dortmund are examples of how to play a high line.

Motivation was also poor. Right from the off too many Tottenham players came out nervous like Lennon, Dembele and Walker.

Finally he should have stopped playing the high line when they were 2-0 down with the red card. It was time to try and keep the score respectable. Terrible performance for AVB and I cannot see him keeping his job.

SC it's up to the manager to strike balance between the players, and it's up to the manager to instill a quick passing game with the players he has available. Yes I think he probably doesn't tell the players to pass slowly but it's hard for them to do otherwise when they play in a system set up by the manager that isn't conducive to that kind of style. Many managers would love to work with the squad we have, it is not a good excuse that it "lacks balance." It appears that way for other reasons. If Martinez could get Wigan's squad to play quick, passing football then Tottenham's squad can as well, if that is the way the manager wants us to play (and if he has any idea how to create that kind of team).

But I actually wouldn't be surprised if AVB instructs the defenders to engage in slow, sideways passing. The reason why I think that is because of an interview I read with him in the telegraph where he emphasizes using the ball as a carrot to draw the other team out. It's a strategy I use in Fifa sometimes that can actually work haha. If you keep possession of the ball between the defenders it can cause ill-disciplined opponents to draw their forwards out to your defenders, which creates space for the midfield players to move into to pick the ball up. It might work in Italy but won't work in England, the game is just too fast paced to play it like a chess match.

A manager is not a miracle worker and cannot turn water into wine. Some people here think that everything is down to the manager. You use the Wigan example, but Martinez completely changed the entire midfield. He brought in two passing midfielders in the centre and then started using Barkley. That's an entirely different midfield. No manager is going to turn a 26 year old Dembele into the new Modric.

In the end it does not matter, because AVB has gone. He made his mistakes and has lost his job. I have already outlined where I think he went wrong, but not getting Dembele, Capoue etc to play like Barcelona is not this problem. The bigger problem is Levy and Baldini.