The Tottenham Thread 13/14 part 3.

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stony said:
Fucking hell, they're after Sherwood before his first game.

I can't stand this poisonous cretin. We need to sack him before Wednesday and get Freundy in charge.

Thick as pig **** and a nasty piece of work.

I want my Tottenham back :-(

Glory glory is funny as fuck at the moment.

Glory Glory has been riotous fun for a few weeks.

TBF a few Spurs fans, including my missus, detest Sherwood. He was very critical of Spurs when he was a pundit and the missus is under the impression he is a Gooner. I guess it's similar to the City-Platt thing.

Bwahahaha.
 
Manc in London said:
stony said:
Fucking hell, they're after Sherwood before his first game.

I can't stand this poisonous cretin. We need to sack him before Wednesday and get Freundy in charge.

Thick as pig **** and a nasty piece of work.

I want my Tottenham back :-(

Glory glory is funny as fuck at the moment.

Glory Glory has been riotous fun for a few weeks.

TBF a few Spurs fans, including my missus, detest Sherwood. He was very critical of Spurs when he was a pundit and the missus is under the impression he is a Gooner. I guess it's similar to the City-Platt thing.

Bwahahaha.
Hoddle wants the job, oh yes please :)
 
The most amusing thing about this whole affair is "Super Chairman" Daniel Levy making some seriously dodgy decisions in the last few years. Sacking Redknapp, hiring AVB then flogging Modric & Bale...all of which have had a big impact on their performances in the league.

Maybe it's not so much the manager that should be taking the heat but the man who provides the tools for him to do his job.
 
Scouse_Jimi said:
The most amusing thing about this whole affair is "Super Chairman" Daniel Levy making some seriously dodgy decisions in the last few years. Sacking Redknapp, hiring AVB then flogging Modric & Bale...all of which have had a big impact on their performances in the league.

Maybe it's not so much the manager that should be taking the heat but the man who provides the tools for him to do his job.

Good point James.

If only THFC0161 was here to defend his hero.
 
Scouse_Jimi said:
The most amusing thing about this whole affair is "Super Chairman" Daniel Levy making some seriously dodgy decisions in the last few years. Sacking Redknapp, hiring AVB then flogging Modric & Bale...all of which have had a big impact on their performances in the league.

Maybe it's not so much the manager that should be taking the heat but the man who provides the tools for him to do his job.

Levy also signed Bale and Modric. So does he get credit for that or does he just get blamed for each of them forcing their way out?

Come on Jimi you know better than that. We kept Modric for a year and we didn't sell to Chelsea, so he didn't just "flog" Modric. Bale also refused to play and stormed out of a meeting with Levy when he was told he wouldn't be sold, in the end our hand was forced and we couldn't turn down the money they offered. If you do the same and sell Suarez in the summer will you criticize your own chairman in the same way?

Sacking Redknapp = right decision. Hiring AVB = wrong decision. But I have no doubt that the team's current troubles are down to AVB and his stubborn adherence to a style of play that doesn't work in this league. So for me our summer signings have a blank slate and a chance to prove themselves under a different manager. Sherwood for now but I think we'll get a permanent manager in fairly soon.
 
GHoddle, you seem a decent chap what is your view for the future of spurs and what if any mistakes the current hierarchy need to avoid making again ?.
When i see future i mean next 3 years from what you know atm.
 
Scouse_Jimi said:
The most amusing thing about this whole affair is "Super Chairman" Daniel Levy making some seriously dodgy decisions in the last few years. Sacking Redknapp, hiring AVB then flogging Modric & Bale...all of which have had a big impact on their performances in the league.

Maybe it's not so much the manager that should be taking the heat but the man who provides the tools for him to do his job.

How exactly were they supposed to keep Modric or Bale?
 
if spurs get hoddle does it mean they are getting punished for something they did in a previous life, hope he brings Eileen drewery with him.

Amazing how Hoddle is being reinvented as the visionary for English football, lets get it right, in his previous spells as manager he was nothing but mediocre, and I cannot remember anyone at the time being overwhelmed with his modern forward thinking football.

it will end in tears and europa league
 
TCIB said:
GHoddle, you seem a decent chap what is your view for the future of spurs and what if any mistakes the current hierarchy need to avoid making again ?.
When i see future i mean next 3 years from what you know atm.

It's hard to say because there are many unknowns at the moment. The one thing Levy and Baldini need to do is pick the right manager. I don't think people realize what a difference it makes, but the evidence is at Old Trafford this season. United will finish 20-30 points worse off (maybe more) with the same exact squad. One more draw and they've dropped the same number of points as they did in all of last season. So the manager makes a huge difference, there's no doubt about that.

The unknowns are how certain players will perform under new management. My personal opinion is that it is not a coincidence that every attacking player we have bought has not looked the same quality as they did at previous clubs. I'm thinking of Sigurdsson, Dempsey (who scored 17 goals at Fulham the season before), Dembele, Paulinho, Eriksen, Soldado, Lamela, Holtby (who had something like 10 assists half way through the season at Schalke), Chadli, Walker (who has never looked as good since AVB came in), and Adebayor. The only one who ever looked improved was Bale, but basically every other player has suffered under AVB. So one of two things is going on: 1.) Whoever is buying the players doesn't know what they are doing. 2.) AVB's style and tactics limited the players ability to express their talents. My opinion is that option 2 is correct, because I don't think that the "system" AVB was setting up was very conducive to our attacking players. It was about pressing the opponent back into an extremely defensive shape, which meant that our attacking players played with very limited space and time on the ball. Made it basically impossible for them imo.

And it would be too big a coincidence that whoever is buying the players seems to get it right with the defensive players (Vertonghen, Chiriches, Lloris, and Capoue all having been good for the most part), but have gotten it wrong with almost all the attacking players. I don't see that as a plausible explanation, especially having watched some of these players at their previous clubs. To me it makes far more sense that AVB's "system" limited their effectiveness, so I'm going to judge them all from a clean slate now.

So it will be difficult to answer until we know how much of the problem was AVB's system. I'm excited though personally, in the short term Sherwood and Ramsey will take charge of the team (Ramsey is a very highly rated coach), but longer term Levy needs to make sure he gets the next manager right. Clearly this is what he's not good at. My opinion would be to go for Prandelli after the world cup, my gut feeling though is it will be Frank De Boer either fairly soon or in the summer. Hard to say if that would be a good choice.

It won't be Hoddle.
 
Rumors are that Spurs are looking for The Italian National Team's manager. His contract is up after the World Cup and He's seeing it out and Spurs can't afford Ladrup or Capello.

"In Wednesday’s edition of the paper, an article has been written by Klaus Egelund claiming that Laudrup’s personal advisers have all-but talked the coach out of taking the Tottenham post.

The bottom line seems to be money. Ekstrabladet don’t believe Spurs have a lot of it, noting that the Lilywhites huge summer spending spree was only sanctioned after Gareth Bale’s largest transfer in the history of football funded all the incomings.

As explained in the article:

Although Tottenham’s sporting director Franco Baldini made significant signings in the summer, it only happened because the sale of Gareth Bale made ​​it possible.

Accordingly it’s very unlikelu that Tottenham will outlay a lot of money out to bring in a new manager. That also impact the chances that Fabio Capello will take over at Tottenham.

This puts Italy coach Cesare Prandelli, who will see his contract expire this summer, now become the top candidate and Franco Baldini’s clear favorite, while Southampton’s manager, Mauricio Pochettino, is another choice."
 
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