The Tottenham Thread 13/14 part 3.

[Crouchinho]

How AVB can rate Sigurdsson and Lennon above Lamela is beyond me. Would love to see him at City.

I don't necessarily think he does really. I think he's just being cautious (perhaps overly) and easing him into English football gently. I'm sure he'll be a regular long before the season is out.

I hope so, it took AVB long enough to get Llrois in last season!

 

[mcmanus]

I'm bored. So fuck off Spurs.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Capoue,Sandro and Paulinho will dominate Citys midfield. If Pellegrini goes 4-4-2, It will complete domination.

Looking forward to the 24th.

Capoue ... No one knows who the f*ck he is , got injured when Arsenal pissed over you I think and has hardly played

Sandro ... Been woeful this season that he has been dropped to the bench some games

Paulinho ... Most overrated player in the premiership , it's only Soldado keeping him away from top spot as the flop signing of the season


COME ON YOU BLUES !

All of that is a load of nonsense. Sandro has been woeful this season? Pfffttt.

On the bench in your last game against Newcastle, came on Half Time and did nothing - a good shot that went wide ...

Not in squad against Sheriff

away to Everton where you were overran in midfield AVB subbed him after an hour in the 0-0 draw

Hull win in league cup not in squad

Hull in the league, where you were awful and scraped a 1-0 win from a penalty, sandro was taking off at half time

West Ham before that he was sub and didnt come on

Same for Chelsea game before that

No goals

No assists


Having a season to remember this man

 

[FrostyNRG]

I was thinking the same thing. I don't think he watches Spurs to be honest, just comes up with a load of shite so people will pat him on the back for his rabid dog rants on Spurs

I bet he watches every game he can. He's just one of "those" West Hams that have such a hatred for Spurs that they lose their ability to be rational about us. Most of the ones I know like that even recognise that fact. Let's be honest, there are a few of our lot that are like that about Ar*enal!

I don't like the sound of Capoue and Sandro in the midfield, I agree with one but not both. Sandro excellent at what he does. That is not enough creativity which will just add to the problem.

I think Capoue and Sandro is the right option for the tough away games. As you say we'll take a point for sure, and if we're going to do that we need to keep the ball as much as possible in midfield. Those two together is our best chance of doing that.

It's time Lamela got some more games under his belt

Definitely agree with this. I think the Newcastle game was a good opportunity to give him a go; I don't think away at Man City is the best time to start introducing him more though.

 

[FrostyNRG]

On the bench in your last game against Newcastle, came on Half Time and did nothing - a good shot that went wide ...

Not in squad against Sheriff

away to Everton where you were overran in midfield AVB subbed him after an hour in the 0-0 draw

Hull win in league cup not in squad

Hull in the league, where you were awful and scraped a 1-0 win from a penalty, sandro was taking off at half time

West Ham before that he was sub and didnt come on

Same for Chelsea game before that

No goals

No assists


Having a season to remember this man

He had a shocker against Hull in the league, the rest of your points are either wrong or irrelevant. He missed the second half of last season and so obviously is not going to be starting every single game. Quite apart from that fact, our squad is rotated for cup games so of course he's going to miss a few of those.

Against Everton, it was when Dembele came on for Sandro that we started to lose out in midfield. A midfield we had dominated in the first half with Sandro playing.

Against Newcastle, we were way, way better in the second half. Particularly at keeping the ball in midfield and not having Newcastle players run through us. As they had done in the first half. When Sandro wasn't playing.

 

[BlueHammer85]

On the bench in your last game against Newcastle, came on Half Time and did nothing - a good shot that went wide ...

Not in squad against Sheriff

away to Everton where you were overran in midfield AVB subbed him after an hour in the 0-0 draw

Hull win in league cup not in squad

Hull in the league, where you were awful and scraped a 1-0 win from a penalty, sandro was taking off at half time

West Ham before that he was sub and didnt come on

Same for Chelsea game before that

No goals

No assists


Having a season to remember this man

He had a shocker against Hull in the league, the rest of your points are either wrong or irrelevant. He missed the second half of last season and so obviously is not going to be starting every single game. Quite apart from that fact, our squad is rotated for cup games so of course he's going to miss a few of those.

Against Everton, it was when Dembele came on for Sandro that we started to lose out in midfield. A midfield we had dominated in the first half with Sandro playing.

Against Newcastle, we were way, way better in the second half. Particularly at keeping the ball in midfield and not having Newcastle players run through us. As they had done in the first half. When Sandro wasn't playing.

Either way you look at it... he's done f*ck all this season

 

[FrostyNRG]

Either way you look at it... he's done f*ck all this season

Well, clearly any way YOU look at it that's the case. A more reasoned analysis would suggest that's he been instrumental in protecting a defense (which is his job) that has conceded very few goals this season. In fact, I'm not even sure we've conceded a single goal while he's been on the pitch.

He's been doing what he should be doing just fine. If you are looking for Spurs players to criticise you are are focusing on entirely the wrong target.

 

[Burnage Red]

You can tell we live in an unfortunate stat-obsessed era when players like Sandro are getting criticised and deemed to have done 'fuck all'. Jesus wept. I watch a fair bit of Spurs as a good mate of mine is an exiled fan up north and it's clear to anyone who watches them that Sandro is a crucial cog in that team. No assists? No goals? So what. That's not his job. I'd argue that breaking up play and distributing the ball to a more creative player is assisting Spurs pretty well so far this season - going well in all three comps. Paulinho has also been excellent but that was expected; for a Brazilian he has a very British style of play and has slotted in well. If anything, the one problem Spurs have had is Soldado. Yeah he's a decent finisher but for a team that plays with one up front, I think they need someone who will stretch defences, make them defend deeper, and provide more space for their midfielders. Soldado is a little slow for their game IMO... ironically someone like Hernandez would be perfect.

 

[Crouchinho]

Against Everton he asked to be subbed due to a knock. AVB made an error not starting him against Newcastle. He did have a poor game against Hull which was unlike him which frosty already mentioned. If you're one of them fans that look for stats on Sandro you aren't going to be blown away by goals or assists. Villa away was his first league start for just over 10 months due to a bad injury.

For me he's one of the first ones on the team sheet along with Hugo and Vertonghen

 

[THFC6061]

On the bench in your last game against Newcastle, came on Half Time and did nothing - a good shot that went wide ...

Not in squad against Sheriff

away to Everton where you were overran in midfield AVB subbed him after an hour in the 0-0 draw

Hull win in league cup not in squad

Hull in the league, where you were awful and scraped a 1-0 win from a penalty, sandro was taking off at half time

West Ham before that he was sub and didnt come on

Same for Chelsea game before that

No goals

No assists


Having a season to remember this man

He had a shocker against Hull in the league, the rest of your points are either wrong or irrelevant. He missed the second half of last season and so obviously is not going to be starting every single game. Quite apart from that fact, our squad is rotated for cup games so of course he's going to miss a few of those.

Against Everton, it was when Dembele came on for Sandro that we started to lose out in midfield. A midfield we had dominated in the first half with Sandro playing.

Against Newcastle, we were way, way better in the second half. Particularly at keeping the ball in midfield and not having Newcastle players run through us. As they had done in the first half. When Sandro wasn't playing.

Either way you look at it... he's done f*ck all this season

We're talking about The Beast, right?

...the goals conceded against both Arsenal & Newcastle happened when Sandro wasn't on the pitch.

So Spurs have yet to concede a goal this season in the 735 minutes Sandro has played.

I'd say that makes Sandro's contribution to Tottenham pretty well vital this season.

 

[Dzeko's Right Boot]

The pre-match thread on Glory Glory might be worth keeping an eye on over the next few days. I expect the delirium to ramp up very soon...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread.php/5323-OMT-Tottenham-Hotspur-Vs-Man-City" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread ... s-Man-City</a>

One guy there that says Soldado will score more than Negredo... *bites fist*

 

[FrostyNRG]

For me he's one of the first ones on the team sheet along with Hugo and Vertonghen

I'd agree. Definitely our three most consistent performers this year. Which is slightly depressing as they're all obviously defensive players!<br /><br />-- Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:45 pm --<br /><br />

The pre-match thread on Glory Glory might be worth keeping an eye on over the next few days. I expect the delirium to ramp up very soon...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread.php/5323-OMT-Tottenham-Hotspur-Vs-Man-City" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread ... s-Man-City</a>

One guy there that says Soldado will score more than Negredo... *bites fist*

In the game or this season? Both pretty unlikely to be fair.

I was really excited about the Soldado signing but been really disappointed so far. Clearly it's not all his fault and we haven't really played to his strengths, but he hasn't exactly helped himself either. Like many Spurs fans I've been desperate for us to sign a top striker for a long time and, while Soldadado clearly has a decent record and is a class player, I'm not sure we've got one that's right for the way we're going to be playing. Too early to judge for certain of course, but far from convinced him so far.

 

[Rocket-footed kolarov]

For me he's one of the first ones on the team sheet along with Hugo and Vertonghen

I'd agree. Definitely our three most consistent performers this year. Which is slightly depressing as they're all obviously defensive players!

-- Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:45 pm --

The pre-match thread on Glory Glory might be worth keeping an eye on over the next few days. I expect the delirium to ramp up very soon...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread.php/5323-OMT-Tottenham-Hotspur-Vs-Man-City" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread ... s-Man-City</a>

One guy there that says Soldado will score more than Negredo... *bites fist*

In the game or this season? Both pretty unlikely to be fair.

I was really excited about the Soldado signing but been really disappointed so far. Clearly it's not all his fault and we haven't really played to his strengths, but he hasn't exactly helped himself either. Like many Spurs fans I've been desperate for us to sign a top striker for a long time and, while Soldadado clearly has a decent record and is a class player, I'm not sure we've got one that's right for the way we're going to be playing. Too early to judge for certain of course, but far from convinced him so far.

I am sure at Valencia, Soldado always had a strike partner. Maybe that is what is required. If you signed somebody like Benteke, I could see him holding the ball up whilst Soldado ghosts into goal scoring positions. If AVB wanted to play with one striker you could always have Lamela or Erikesen off Benteke, like VDV played. It is a shame that Adebayor's gone off the rails again as I could see him and Soldado making a good pairing, Defoe is far too similar to RS for me.

 

[FrostyNRG]

I am sure at Valencia, Soldado always had a strike partner. Maybe that is what is required. If you signed somebody like Benteke, I could see him holding the ball up whilst Soldado ghosts into goal scoring positions. If AVB wanted to play with one striker you could always have Lamela or Erikesen off Benteke, like VDV played. It is a shame that Adebayor's gone off the rails again as I could see him and Soldado making a good pairing, Defoe is far too similar to RS for me.

I don't think AVB is going to change his system at all, unless we are chasing a game. I think he's going to start one up top the whole time, with a number 10 in behind. That's been part of our problem too, the players that have been playing that role have not been playing advanced enough.

Benteke was the one I wanted this summer and I think he would do very well in our system. I actually think a full-firing and motivated Adebayor would also work up there on his own, though I very much doubt we'll ever see that player in our colours again.

 

[supercrystal7]

I am sure at Valencia, Soldado always had a strike partner. Maybe that is what is required. If you signed somebody like Benteke, I could see him holding the ball up whilst Soldado ghosts into goal scoring positions. If AVB wanted to play with one striker you could always have Lamela or Erikesen off Benteke, like VDV played. It is a shame that Adebayor's gone off the rails again as I could see him and Soldado making a good pairing, Defoe is far too similar to RS for me.

I don't think AVB is going to change his system at all, unless we are chasing a game. I think he's going to start one up top the whole time, with a number 10 in behind. That's been part of our problem too, the players that have been playing that role have not been playing advanced enough.

Benteke was the one I wanted this summer and I think he would do very well in our system. I actually think a full-firing and motivated Adebayor would also work up there on his own, though I very much doubt we'll ever see that player in our colours again.

Well for the one at top, Adebayor trying is pretty much a perfect striker. Lightning quick, decent touch, can hold up play etc. Shame he only cares about the money and not the game.

Still it's worth AVB swallowing his pride and trying to get the best out him, as you said Benteke would have been perfect, but I think it was easy to convince him to give Villa another year: his form not disrupted by a move before the world cup and a good showing at the world cup will gain even greater interest.

I still think Tottenham have had the most upheaval out of all the teams. Losing your star player and adding so many is not easy. AVB is doing quite well with organisation at the minute, because your defenders are not great.

 

[GHoddle]

Well for the one at top, Adebayor trying is pretty much a perfect striker. Lightning quick, decent touch, can hold up play etc. Shame he only cares about the money and not the game.

Still it's worth AVB swallowing his pride and trying to get the best out him, as you said Benteke would have been perfect, but I think it was easy to convince him to give Villa another year: his form not disrupted by a move before the world cup and a good showing at the world cup will gain even greater interest.

I still think Tottenham have had the most upheaval out of all the teams. Losing your star player and adding so many is not easy. AVB is doing quite well with organisation at the minute, because your defenders are not great.

From what I've heard, Ade's actions in the past have pretty much eliminated the possibility of him playing for us again (or at least being a regular in the team). Faking illness to miss games then showing up at nightclubs the same day, acting like a child, missing training, refusing to play U21 games to increase his fitness, etc, etc. I think he's burned his bridges to be honest.

 

[IH8MUFC]

Well for the one at top, Adebayor trying is pretty much a perfect striker. Lightning quick, decent touch, can hold up play etc. Shame he only cares about the money and not the game.

Still it's worth AVB swallowing his pride and trying to get the best out him, as you said Benteke would have been perfect, but I think it was easy to convince him to give Villa another year: his form not disrupted by a move before the world cup and a good showing at the world cup will gain even greater interest.
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From what I've heard, Ade's actions in the past have pretty much eliminated the possibility of him playing for us again (or at least being a regular in the team). Faking illness to miss games then showing up at nightclubs the same day, acting like a child, missing training, refusing to play U21 games to increase his fitness, etc, etc. I think he's burned his bridges to be honest.

its football and its a business. if spurs feel adebayor will win games he will play. after all spurs are paying him 6 figures a week to do just that.

 

[Matty]

Well for the one at top, Adebayor trying is pretty much a perfect striker. Lightning quick, decent touch, can hold up play etc. Shame he only cares about the money and not the game.

Still it's worth AVB swallowing his pride and trying to get the best out him, as you said Benteke would have been perfect, but I think it was easy to convince him to give Villa another year: his form not disrupted by a move before the world cup and a good showing at the world cup will gain even greater interest.

I still think Tottenham have had the most upheaval out of all the teams. Losing your star player and adding so many is not easy. AVB is doing quite well with organisation at the minute, because your defenders are not great.

From what I've heard, Ade's actions in the past have pretty much eliminated the possibility of him playing for us again (or at least being a regular in the team). Faking illness to miss games then showing up at nightclubs the same day, acting like a child, missing training, refusing to play U21 games to increase his fitness, etc, etc. I think he's burned his bridges to be honest.

If only there could have been some way of predicting this kind of behaviour, a track record of it, a precedent if you will..........

 

[MJepsenJensen]

On the 24th, Aguero will be left behind by Lamela.

 

[dannyirishblue]

On the 24th, Aguero will be left behind by Lamela.

not sure Aguero will be one of our fullbacks