The Tottenham Thread (Merged)

[gazinho]

I am sure it is still 11 a-side !! So go on pick your strongest team

There isn't really such a thing as a strongest side, for example, Sandro would have definitely played in the middle with Parker if fit at Anfield yesterday. Against Newcastle at home, it makes more sense to play one of Sandro/Parker alongside Modric, therefore what defines a player as Key can't be viewed in the context of whether he would have started just one particular game, it is more of his worth over the course of the season as you face opposition with varying weaknesses/strengths to focus on. Debating with a Spurs fan whether the afformentioned players are key or not doesn't really make sense.

Hahahaha!

"I'm not answering that because it would render my argument useless....wah wah wah.....anyway, don't question me, I'm a Spurs fan!"

Hahahaha pretty much this, I simply asked which 7 'key' players were missing last night and now were on a journey around the houses to try to explain why a park the bus 0-0 at Liverpool was a tremendous result

-- Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:55 pm --

Im not disputing the fact you would have had a stronger bench with them players though.

Our bench was comedy last night, one 38 year old keeper, one 34 year old defender who hasn't played since august and hasn't played for Spurs, one defender who at 25 failed on loan at reading and got sent back, Danny Rose who to be fair could develop in to a tidy left back, Massimo Luongo who the club seems to rate highly but has one senior appearance to his name, Cameron Lancaster, 19, who had a good 10 minutes against Wigan and a 33 year old striker who hasn't scored in a fairly long time.

I'm not even complaining about the bench to be honest, quite liked it, had a lot of character!

But avoiding the rest of my post?

Good effort on having a shite bench, we'd never have that of course as we have the biggest squad in world football ever (or 25 senior players just like most of the other sides in the league)

Good luck in your battle for 3rd if Chelsea actually decide to start playing

 

[spurspinter1]

There isn't really such a thing as a strongest side, for example, Sandro would have definitely played in the middle with Parker if fit at Anfield yesterday. Against Newcastle at home, it makes more sense to play one of Sandro/Parker alongside Modric, therefore what defines a player as Key can't be viewed in the context of whether he would have started just one particular game, it is more of his worth over the course of the season as you face opposition with varying weaknesses/strengths to focus on. Debating with a Spurs fan whether the afformentioned players are key or not doesn't really make sense.

Hahahaha!

"I'm not answering that because it would render my argument useless....wah wah wah.....anyway, don't question me, I'm a Spurs fan!"

Hahahaha pretty much this, I simply asked which 7 'key' players were missing last night and now were on a journey around the houses to try to explain why a park the bus 0-0 at Liverpool was a tremendous result

hahaha lolz stupid spudz hahaha lolz, yeah I get it.

It is a genuine belief of mine that there isn't such thing as a strongest XI. Football is about accentuating your oppositions flaws and attempting to counter their strengths, therefore with each different opposing team comes a list of varying strengths or weaknesses.

Fooor example, the team who went on to beat AC Milan at the San Siro last season would not necessarily be the best team to take on Wigan at home. Different strengths/weakenesses.

A question was asked and I did my best to answer it. Ask Mancini what his strongest XI is and he'll think you're an idiot.

 

[Boots_]

Hahahaha!

"I'm not answering that because it would render my argument useless....wah wah wah.....anyway, don't question me, I'm a Spurs fan!"

Hahahaha pretty much this, I simply asked which 7 'key' players were missing last night and now were on a journey around the houses to try to explain why a park the bus 0-0 at Liverpool was a tremendous result

hahaha lolz stupid spudz hahaha lolz, yeah I get it.

It is a genuine belief of mine that there isn't such thing as a strongest XI. Football is about accentuating your oppositions flaws and attempting to counter their strengths, therefore with each different opposing team comes a list of varying strengths or weaknesses.

Fooor example, the team who went on to beat AC Milan at the San Siro last season would not necessarily be the best team to take on Wigan at home. Different strengths/weakenesses.

A question was asked and I did my best to answer it. Ask Mancini what his strongest XI is and he'll think you're an idiot.

What would you're starting XI have been against Liverpool if all players had been available?

 

[spurspinter1]

But avoiding the rest of my post?

Good effort on having a shite bench, we'd never have that of course as we have the biggest squad in world football ever (or 25 senior players just like most of the other sides in the league)

Good luck in your battle for 3rd if Chelsea actually decide to start playing

My other post addresses the points in yours, I'd simply be repeating myself.

Cheers mate, 3rd will be a triffic achievement, have a feeling that Chelsea will come good soon enough so it will be difficult. No reason we can't aim higher though.

 

[Ducado]

A draw at Klanfield is a good result for any team, they have the home advantage with a sometimes noisy crowd

 

[GStar]

So 3 starting players, 1 key player.

Lennon VDV Kaboul Gallas are most definitely key players, Sandro would be as well were it not for his injury problems and how well Livermore's slotted it.

You're starting CB partnership bar injuries is Dawson-King. Kaboul and Gallas are therefore not key players.

Lennon is a first team player, i'm sure given an ultimatum, you'd keep a fit Adebayor, Bale, VdV, Parker, King, Dawson, Friedel over Lennon.

As i see it, it's 3 starting players, 1 key (VdV).

 

[spurspinter1]

What would you're starting XI have been against Liverpool if all players had been available?

Is that the question you meant to ask before?

It is a difficult one.


--------------Friedel-------------
---Walker--Kaboul--King--BAE---
-------------Sandro--------------
----------Parker--Modric-------
Lennon------------------Bale------
---------------Ade-------------

with a bench of Cudicini, Gallas, Rose, Livermore, VDV, Saha, Defoe

Sort of a 433/451 kind of thing, with Sandro shielding the back four.

Sandro Kaboul and Lennon would be in there if fit imo. Bench very hard to decide upon. Should probably have Saha there as an option but seems harsh on Krancjar. Ah screw it.

 

[Manc in London]

In my experience, the majority of Spurs fans on internet forums will never admit they they lost/drew because they were not the better team. There is always an excuse - weather, ref getting a throw-in decision wrong, the press etc.. The list of excuses is never-ending.

Internet-based Spurs fans give the impression that they are the unluckiest club to have ever graced the planet. The attitude of the mentally weak.

Again, I will make the point that in real life, London-based Spurs fans are not as bad as those who stalk the forums. Those who infest the forums tend to be gob$hites from irrelevant towns outside London - Watford, Stevenage, Waltham Cross, Welwyn, Colchester etc....

 

[The Future's Blue]

Whatever team they put out last night it wouldn't have mattered, they'd still have played for a draw. Says a lot about where they want to be.

The Dippers were the better team, simple as.

 

[spurspinter1]

So 3 starting players, 1 key player.

Lennon VDV Kaboul Gallas are most definitely key players, Sandro would be as well were it not for his injury problems and how well Livermore's slotted it.

You're starting CB partnership bar injuries is Dawson-King. Kaboul and Gallas are therefore not key players.

Lennon is a first team player, i'm sure given an ultimatum, you'd keep a fit Adebayor, Bale, VdV, Parker, King, Dawson, Friedel over Lennon.

As i see it, it's 3 starting players, 1 key (VdV).

Maybe a season and a half ago, but Kaboul's been one of the best centre backs in the league this season. Outperformed King. Dawson is also most definitely behind Gallas in the pecking order as well.

Once again, I think our basic definition of key players differs so it is a bit of a silly argument.