The (very) Thin Blue Line

[idahoblues]

Does it not depend on the individual?

Stop making sense!

 

[FantasyIreland]

Does it not depend on the individual?

Yes of course there will be exceptions,but it's almost impossible to have gained the life skills and experiences needed when you have just left university,and few will have the streetwise attitude i alluded to.The 'IME' was a clue.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

IME the graduate/just left University type do not make the most effective street wise officer,they are usually lacking in common sense and naive by nature.

Recruitment from the communities,the armed forces,and people with life experience is what the Service is lacking.

Numbers of coppers might be a better measure and we are 22000 down since 2010. More police and proper sentences for violent offenders is where we need to be headed not stereotyping people who choose to join the force. For that to happen we need to stop putting many other categories of people inside. Drug addicts need treatment, not jail. Women not paying fines? It’s pointless putting them in the nick and it almost always costs more than the fine not being paid. Put almost all non violent offenders on litter picking or community service and clear out the jails.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Numbers of coppers might be a better measure and we are 22000 down since 2010. More police and proper sentences for violent offenders is where we need to be headed not stereotyping people who choose to join the force. For that to happen we need to stop putting many other categories of people inside. Drug addicts need treatment, not jail. Women not paying fines? It’s pointless putting them in the nick and it almost always costs more than the fine not being paid. Put almost all non violent offenders on litter picking or community service and clear out the jails.

It wasn't meant as a stereotype,just factual in an obvious way,and more pertinently.....from personal experience.

As for the rest of your comment,i agree entirely.

 

[kaz7]

Numbers of coppers might be a better measure and we are 22000 down since 2010. More police and proper sentences for violent offenders is where we need to be headed not stereotyping people who choose to join the force. For that to happen we need to stop putting many other categories of people inside. Drug addicts need treatment, not jail. Women not paying fines? It’s pointless putting them in the nick and it almost always costs more than the fine not being paid. Put almost all non violent offenders on litter picking or community service and clear out the jails.

Pity the not needed austerity has wiped out police numbers,where is the outrage at the tories for that,boris promise of 20,000 new officers is bollocks promised by sucessive tory leaders,it is no wonder the police are stretched thin

 

[west didsblue]

It wasn't meant as a stereotype,just factual in an obvious way,and more pertinently.....from personal experience.

As for the rest of your comment,i agree entirely.

What do you mean? Do you know a couple of graduates without much life experience. Well I know a few with quite a lot of life experience. More than you’d get from leaving school and going straight into police cadet training.
The police need to be reasonably well educated. Following the appropriate procedures to make sure that a villain does not get off on a technicality means that taking on people based just on life experience won’t cut it. They’ll soon pick up life experience once they go on patrol with experienced officers but if they’re not the brightest nothing’s going to change that.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Retention is maybe a bigger problem than recruitment.

Good officers,the type we need are leaving every day.We need to address that issue as a matter of urgency.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Pity the not needed austerity has wiped out police numbers,where is the outrage at the tories for that,boris promise of 20,000 new officers is bollocks promised by sucessive tory leaders,it is no wonder the police are stretched thin

Ex pm may is more to blame than anyone for the decline in police numbers, among other things. She was home secretary from 2010-16.

 

[Damocles]

I have a decent amount of friends in the GMP as a family member is a local copper and a union rep. They're a close knit bunch.

In my experience with them, the Police are generally socially minded citizens who recognise the difference between right and wrong, and want to help their communities to be safer places. Not all obviously because no ONE description covers every person within a certain group of people, but generally, as a stereotype, it's how they've come across to me.

Hearing that any Police Officer has been assaulted or died is distressing and disappointing, but it's worth pointing out that these are comparatively rare cases and we need to recognise that they're not the norm. I actually had the Police round at my house today because I had to ring 999 due to a violent domestic across the road and they popped in, had a brew, took some evidence then went on their way in a totally professional manner. The offender was restrained and locked up, and they went onto their next job after about seven hundred miles of paperwork.

Extraordinary events are by their nature extra ordinary and it's easy to have a visceral reaction to them. Instead try to take them in their proper context as a freak incident that isn't reflective of the wider day to day job.

 

[FantasyIreland]

What do you mean? Do you know a couple of graduates without much life experience. Well I know a few with quite a lot of life experience. More than you’d get from leaving school and going straight into police cadet training.
The police need to be reasonably well educated. Following the appropriate procedures to make sure that a villain does not get off on a technicality means that taking on people based just on life experience won’t cut it. They’ll soon pick up life experience once they go on patrol with experienced officers but if they’re not the brightest nothing’s going to change that.

You're talking nonsense,and insulting thousands of officers that currently perform the role.

Why do you equate the people i refer to with lacking intelligence? Are you even aware of the standards needed to pass the selection criteria?

Police cadets? they were disbanded years back were they not?