intheredcorner said:
It's what we feel. You can't change it. Nasri says he moved because of trophies...but let's not pretend that doubling your money isn't a factor you consider when moving jobs. It's the truth. Of course winning the league will mask it. But he wasn't such a key player in your team.
Here's a question. Do you think you could have won the league even without Nasri?
I think you would have. That's what makes him a passenger. The truth is, players who talk a lot, try to 'give it back to fans' and that sort of behaviour always follow the wrong path. Because they don't know how to shut up. Nasri insulted Gallas for leaving arsenal. He even refused to shake Gallas's hand during the pre-match ritual. He called Gallas a coward and all sorts of other names. So why shouldn't he expect to be told the same things when he also does a Gallas? Check out all other guys who talk too much. They never settle at one club. Anelka, Adebayor, Bellamy, Tevez, Gallas, Heinze etc. You see, it's in their character. If a guy like Hazard comes in and all of a sudden Nasri starts getting fewer game times, he will start opening his big mouth. Soon he will be shipped away on loan to France because of the enegry he brings to your changing room. That's how he's gonna end up if he continues on the part he has taken. Guys like Kolo, clichy, fabregas on the other hand are true professionals. They don't talk too much. They go about their business.
Nasri had better learn from true professionals in your ranks like Kompany, Milner, Barry, Sergio...
But like I said...other than Nasri (what do you expect anyway) I have no problem with city and I actually preferred that you won it over united.
I liked the bit in your first post that he was going to replace Fabregas but then he joined us and was a passenger. He must have done some good stuff with you for you to think he would replace Fabregas, can you not applaud that? And now you say that because he moves he becomes shit?
You need to learn that players are professionals; they are not fans. Those kids that grow up chasing the dream with their local club very rarely get to play for their local team as pros. It is obvious that you believe, just like the swamp dwellers up here, that the kids that are brought through your ranks, or more likely bought in, never loved anyone else before they came to you and can never love another club after they have played for you.
What you forget is that 9 times out of ten, or perhaps 99 out of 100 to be accurate, the kids that break through to the top level have spent their earlier years living the dream at another club and often in another country so their affinity will never just be to the club that makes their name.
As pros it is their job to give everything to the shirt they wear when they are playing. If another team come along and offers them something better (success and cash), just like you offered Nasri when he first came to you, a player will, in most cases, move.
Face it, all this is because you cannot understand why your best players want to leave. There are 3 trophies on offer in England each year and your manager has for a number of years chosen to play the kids in one of them. So the senior players would only partcipate in two. Pro footballers want to win stuff (otherwise why play?) so your policy leaves them with only two competitions and then they see the very best players move from your club so they know that in those two remaining competitions there are better teams in the competition so the chances of winning are pretty limited.
You didnt used to be like this, you used to play some great football with great players and you won stuff and this encouraged more players to join the club. You used to come to Maine Road and batter us with your quality and I amongst many have stood and applauded your team on more than one occasion. This is no longer the case, you are a selling club that reinvests only in potential, a selling club where the manager seems to have no say in bringing in big name players or he truly believes that he is the club accountant. You pay top dollar to the club to watch your team, a good team but no longer challenging the best because they do not bring you the top players.
Dont see this as the new boys having a pop just cos they have won something, take it as someone who stood and watched our enemy, the rag bastards, keep winning stuff because the clubs like you that had the resources to challenge them chose not to keep taking the big step and stand toe to toe with them by signing the best players to improve your team. As soon as we got the resources to match our passion we have brought in the players to do the job and took the rags on toe to toe, nose to nose and won two of the last six trophies on offer beating them handsomely along the way.
Will Nasri play for us forever? Unlikely. Will Kompany? Will Barry? Will Milner? Will YaYa? Will Sergio? unlikely again but whilst they do they will get our support. When they move you applaud their efforts and then get behind those that take their place, thats it, life goes on.
The barracking and booing you give to players who move to other clubs in England doesnt make you an attractive club for new players either because they know if they do well for you they may well face the same problem.
I hope you keep RVP and add to your squad and have the bollocks to challenge the rags next year and not roll over for them twice but as I see it the club hope they can be the best but end up just playing nice, this policy obviously doesnt work. If Arsenal plc do decide to accept any offers for RVP, whether from us or any other club, I hope they reinvest in some quality and not just potential.
