The Waiting List

blueparrot said:
moomba said:
Marvin said:
Never seen that figure released. Sold out on Day 1 in the past so unlikely to be significant. I'm of the opposite opinion to the majority on here.

City's ticketing has been and is expensive with the Value card used as a gimmick (given hitherto small numbers) to give us good press, but the expansion gives us the possibility of a meaningful number of Value Tickets in the range of £299 to £449.

£449 isnt a value ticket as far as I'm.concerned.

£15.75 to £23 / game is great value for me. Not sure how low you expect it to be before you think it's good value.

Excellent value mate but some people would still moan if they were free.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
moomba said:
Marvin said:
Never seen that figure released. Sold out on Day 1 in the past so unlikely to be significant. I'm of the opposite opinion to the majority on here.

City's ticketing has been and is expensive with the Value card used as a gimmick (given hitherto small numbers) to give us good press, but the expansion gives us the possibility of a meaningful number of Value Tickets in the range of £299 to £449.

£449 isnt a value ticket as far as I'm.concerned.

£23 a game to see David Silva and Sergio Aguero play. I have to disagree with you.


I think a lot of people here need a reality check. I have a mate who supports West Ham, he has a pretty basic seat which was costing £900 3 years ago and that didn't include a neck brace needed to watch Fat Sam's team.
 
Dont really care what West Ham charge to be honest.

With broadcast and commercial income at an all time high £20 should be the most you pay for a standard seat for 90 minutes of football IMO.

Maybe overly idealistic, but IMO football as industry has lost all perspective on what is reasonable pricing and what isnt.
 
Going fucking way over board kev, way over board, they have to gauge serious interest, £25 a month for four months isn't ridiculous money if you're seriously interested, or would you rather they asked for £2 a week for the next 50 weeks?
 
To add a bit of perspective.. at just over 20 quid a game that some of us pay to watch what we do, I know my local league 2 team (Morecambe) works out around 15 quid a game.. I know where i'm happier spending my money! We are cheap, football has changed and isn't strictly a working mans game anymore but we are cheap.
 
moomba said:
Dont really care what West Ham charge to be honest.

With broadcast and commercial income at an all time high £20 should be the most you pay for a standard seat for 90 minutes of football IMO.

Maybe overly idealistic, but IMO football as industry has lost all perspective on what is reasonable pricing and what isnt.

£20 thats mid range for £299 - £450 are you really that angry over an extra £57 / year £3.00 /game at the most.
 
I must admit unless work opportunities near Manchester improve in my industry or I can secure a £299 ticket I will probably call it a day watching games live. At he moment I can only justify paying £299 as I do not make every game and as tickets to one off games are usually ridiculously priced this does not appear a suitable alternative. Not the clubs fault for me just a matter of Geography and the neccessity to keep pace with other clubs.
 
blueparrot said:
moomba said:
Dont really care what West Ham charge to be honest.

With broadcast and commercial income at an all time high £20 should be the most you pay for a standard seat for 90 minutes of football IMO.

Maybe overly idealistic, but IMO football as industry has lost all perspective on what is reasonable pricing and what isnt.

£20 thats mid range for £299 - £450 are you really that angry over an extra £57 / year £3.00 /game at the most.

Not sure I recall saying that I was angry at £450. Just that I don't consider it a bargain.

It wasnt that long ago (3/4 years) that £450 would have been one of the more expensive non hospitality seats in the stadium.
 
Kenney_The_Blue said:
Going fucking way over board kev, way over board, they have to gauge serious interest, £25 a month for four months isn't ridiculous money if you're seriously interested, or would you rather they asked for £2 a week for the next 50 weeks?

I'm going way over board am I? Way over board?

My opinion on the way football fans are treated in this country is that we're asked for far too much money at every possible opportunity. If I stump up £300 now for me and my 2 lads for season tickets in 2 years time, I want to be guaranteed about what I'm going to get at the end of it. Not too much to ask when you pay a deposit is it?

It's been going on for far too long and because it's City and West Ham, Arsenal and QPR charge more, it's not going to stop me having a say.

They've been selling loyalty points over the last few seasons which basically means if you've got more money than the bloke next to you, it doesn't matter how many games he's been to, he'll never catch your loyalty points.

How exactly am I going overboard? I'm writing a comment on a fucking internet forum, not invading the pitch and chaining myself to the goalposts.
 
I think it’s funny that people start arguing the price per individual game, if they buy a bulk purchase. I mean if you buy a buy of multi-bag of crisps you don’t expect to pay 40p for each packet, you want it lower than you price expectation.

I think it should be £25 maximum buying a singular ticket, not the £40-50 they charge. If you buy a season ticket it should be a £300 overall the ground as it’s a bulk purchase and you’re making a larger commitment to the club. No-one can state that Sky moving games have not caused you problems getting to games due to uncontrollable circumstances, and this is an aspect of the commitment that you are making.

I do have sympathy with the club, as offering lower prices will encourage the purchase, but why should stop existing fans getting these tickets. I am hoping that after the expansion we can see an overall reduction in prices of all tickets as of the supply increase. The deposit idea will only work with everyone being willing to pay top money and I honestly think that this will not encourage the amount of people that are willing to pay the lower amount. However it will encourage a larger part of the richer cliental they obviously desire, shown by the ability of fans to have the opportunity to buy loyalty points or the ability to buy a blue membership (matching cost of my desired match day ticket price) over a general. The demand is there with the club getting bigger leading to these increased costs. Football as much a middle class sport as working class sport, and the prices are matching this.
 
the thing is, if you pay 100 notes now, then in two years time you pay 199 notes gives you time to save the rest of the money, but if you don't want to pay, then wait till you can get a season ticket and pay
 
moomba said:
Dont really care what West Ham charge to be honest.

With broadcast and commercial income at an all time high £20 should be the most you pay for a standard seat for 90 minutes of football IMO.

Maybe overly idealistic, but IMO football as industry has lost all perspective on what is reasonable pricing and what isnt.

You are very hard to please. Statistics place City as having one of the cheapest season ticket structure and as it keeps being pointed out (yet you ignore it) our owner has to abide by FFP<br /><br />-- 17 Nov 2013 17:09 --<br /><br />
moomba said:
CC1 said:
moomba said:
No-one thinks that at all.

'fraid some certainly do

I think you misunderstand people not wanting to overcharged with people wanting something for free.


I think there is a lot of misunderstanding - of how a football club has to be run in the current climate. OUr club does try to keep the prices down and, as I have already said, statistics prove that considering the players we have and the recent success, our tickets are more than value for money. However, it's a game of opinions and nothing is going to change yours
 
RODDY_CTID said:
I think it’s funny that people start arguing the price per individual game, if they buy a bulk purchase. I mean if you buy a buy of multi-bag of crisps you don’t expect to pay 40p for each packet, you want it lower than you price expectation.

I think it should be £25 maximum buying a singular ticket, not the £40-50 they charge. If you buy a season ticket it should be a £300 overall the ground as it’s a bulk purchase and you’re making a larger commitment to the club. No-one can state that Sky moving games have not caused you problems getting to games due to uncontrollable circumstances, and this is an aspect of the commitment that you are making.

I do have sympathy with the club, as offering lower prices will encourage the purchase, but why should stop existing fans getting these tickets. I am hoping that after the expansion we can see an overall reduction in prices of all tickets as of the supply increase. The deposit idea will only work with everyone being willing to pay top money and I honestly think that this will not encourage the amount of people that are willing to pay the lower amount. However it will encourage a larger part of the richer cliental they obviously desire, shown by the ability of fans to have the opportunity to buy loyalty points or the ability to buy a blue membership (matching cost of my desired match day ticket price) over a general. The demand is there with the club getting bigger leading to these increased costs. Football as much a middle class sport as working class sport, and the prices are matching this.

Maybe because it is the tradition for fans who buy a season ticket to turn up for every game. Therefore the average price of a ticket is a cost reflection of cost.

I would love to see cheaper ticket prices. However, The people who buy season tickets but leave seats empty for games let everybody down. The club are likely to infer that tickets are very affordable if paying customers don't turn up - that has been an issue over recent seasons.

There are 4,000 reasons why the deposit idea is already working. People looking to use the expansion as the club exploiting the fans would be better off attacking the City Circles and Forever Blue initiatives.

I think people being turfed out of Level2 is the bigger issue than value tickets. More seats are likely to be empty as Corporates pick and choose games.
 
I think people being turfed out of Level2 is the bigger issue than value tickets. More seats are likely to be empty as Corporates pick and choose games



these seat will be given to club sponsors ie ex amout of sponsorship/money entitles your company to so many free tickets every game for that season

they'll still pay for food and drink in the private bars but get something back for the money put in a seat at every game
 
Tim of the Oak said:
RODDY_CTID said:
I think it’s funny that people start arguing the price per individual game, if they buy a bulk purchase. I mean if you buy a buy of multi-bag of crisps you don’t expect to pay 40p for each packet, you want it lower than you price expectation.

I think it should be £25 maximum buying a singular ticket, not the £40-50 they charge. If you buy a season ticket it should be a £300 overall the ground as it’s a bulk purchase and you’re making a larger commitment to the club. No-one can state that Sky moving games have not caused you problems getting to games due to uncontrollable circumstances, and this is an aspect of the commitment that you are making.

I do have sympathy with the club, as offering lower prices will encourage the purchase, but why should stop existing fans getting these tickets. I am hoping that after the expansion we can see an overall reduction in prices of all tickets as of the supply increase. The deposit idea will only work with everyone being willing to pay top money and I honestly think that this will not encourage the amount of people that are willing to pay the lower amount. However it will encourage a larger part of the richer cliental they obviously desire, shown by the ability of fans to have the opportunity to buy loyalty points or the ability to buy a blue membership (matching cost of my desired match day ticket price) over a general. The demand is there with the club getting bigger leading to these increased costs. Football as much a middle class sport as working class sport, and the prices are matching this.

Maybe because it is the tradition for fans who buy a season ticket to turn up for every game. Therefore the average price of a ticket is a cost reflection of cost.

I would love to see cheaper ticket prices. However, The people who buy season tickets but leave seats empty for games let everybody down. The club are likely to infer that tickets are very affordable if paying customers don't turn up - that has been an issue over recent seasons.

There are 4,000 reasons why the deposit idea is already working. People looking to use the expansion as the club exploiting the fans would be better off attacking the City Circles and Forever Blue initiatives.

I think people being turfed out of Level2 is the bigger issue than value tickets. More seats are likely to be empty as Corporates pick and choose games.

The customers that do not turn up have this commitment issues that I was referring too. Having to take a child to a night game @ 8pm on Monday links to this issue, but promoting the club to the younger generation is necessary. Sky have change the football its traditional roots are not the same. To some extent I believe that the empty seats are due to the higher cost. Middle class people can afford to not go to game. Working class person would want as much value as possible, but the price and sky means they have to make to logical choice they cannot afford to go
 
Tim of the Oak said:
RODDY_CTID said:
I think it’s funny that people start arguing the price per individual game, if they buy a bulk purchase. I mean if you buy a buy of multi-bag of crisps you don’t expect to pay 40p for each packet, you want it lower than you price expectation.

I think it should be £25 maximum buying a singular ticket, not the £40-50 they charge. If you buy a season ticket it should be a £300 overall the ground as it’s a bulk purchase and you’re making a larger commitment to the club. No-one can state that Sky moving games have not caused you problems getting to games due to uncontrollable circumstances, and this is an aspect of the commitment that you are making.

I do have sympathy with the club, as offering lower prices will encourage the purchase, but why should stop existing fans getting these tickets. I am hoping that after the expansion we can see an overall reduction in prices of all tickets as of the supply increase. The deposit idea will only work with everyone being willing to pay top money and I honestly think that this will not encourage the amount of people that are willing to pay the lower amount. However it will encourage a larger part of the richer cliental they obviously desire, shown by the ability of fans to have the opportunity to buy loyalty points or the ability to buy a blue membership (matching cost of my desired match day ticket price) over a general. The demand is there with the club getting bigger leading to these increased costs. Football as much a middle class sport as working class sport, and the prices are matching this.

Maybe because it is the tradition for fans who buy a season ticket to turn up for every game. Therefore the average price of a ticket is a cost reflection of cost.

I would love to see cheaper ticket prices. However, The people who buy season tickets but leave seats empty for games let everybody down. The club are likely to infer that tickets are very affordable if paying customers don't turn up - that has been an issue over recent seasons.

There are 4,000 reasons why the deposit idea is already working. People looking to use the expansion as the club exploiting the fans would be better off attacking the City Circles and Forever Blue initiatives.

I think people being turfed out of Level2 is the bigger issue than value tickets. More seats are likely to be empty as Corporates pick and choose games.

That is really ignorant thing to say unless you have an individual knowledge of peoples personal circumstances. Similarly I very much doubt the club are basing their price structure on this, more likely the more scientific model of supply and demand.
 
citykev28 said:
Kenney_The_Blue said:
Going fucking way over board kev, way over board, they have to gauge serious interest, £25 a month for four months isn't ridiculous money if you're seriously interested, or would you rather they asked for £2 a week for the next 50 weeks?

I'm going way over board am I? Way over board?

My opinion on the way football fans are treated in this country is that we're asked for far too much money at every possible opportunity. If I stump up £300 now for me and my 2 lads for season tickets in 2 years time, I want to be guaranteed about what I'm going to get at the end of it. Not too much to ask when you pay a deposit is it?

It's been going on for far too long and because it's City and West Ham, Arsenal and QPR charge more, it's not going to stop me having a say.

They've been selling loyalty points over the last few seasons which basically means if you've got more money than the bloke next to you, it doesn't matter how many games he's been to, he'll never catch your loyalty points.

How exactly am I going overboard? I'm writing a comment on a fucking internet forum, not invading the pitch and chaining myself to the goalposts.
Keeping football within the range of the working family is one of the No. 1 concerns of football fans.

I get that. But isn't that exactly what this does? £299 to £449 and £450 to £599 is significantly cheaper than what I am paying now.

I know there are some fans who are unemployed or on low wages, but this is moving in the right direction. Maybe the club are doing this, not to keep prices affordable, but to fill the ground and they will ratchet up the prices in the future, but you can't argue that the prices are expensive.

I understand you don't want to pay £100 for something that is uncertain. That's your choice, but it is refundable and it can be paid in instalments
 

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