The World Cup Final.

[agyeiboateng]

A lot of people on this form have an IQ of 11.

When you compared what is being said on here to other forms, it is very evident.

It seems when Ronaldo and Messi lose, its their fault and they are rubbish players.

To be fair though, when the team is completely set up to accommodate them at the expense of bringing out the best in others and they don't perform they will get some stick.

Argentina didn't lose because of Messi...

The main reason they lost imo was because Germany are just a flat out better team and they were also unlucky with injuries. Messi had a down year last year, Aguero after a blazing start just kept breaking down every 3 weeks and they also lost Di Maria in the last couple of games. Di Maria didnt play in the final and Aguero came on in the 2nd half.

Germany were worthy winners imo and the best team did win, but Argentina were also very unlucky to have their 3 best players broken down.
Tevez also should have went. With their three best attackers all suffering he would have been perfect for this game with his never say die attitude.

 

[Wio Gumflapdinand]

A lot of people on this form have an IQ of 11.

When you compared what is being said on here to other forms, it is very evident.

It seems when Ronaldo and Messi lose, its their fault and they are rubbish players.

Oh Christ it's a fanboy, probably on this forum just for transfer gossip and started supporting City hoping we buy Ronaldo or Messi. I'd love to know your IQ

 

[agyeiboateng]

Messi wasn't to blame. The expectations on him were extremely high considering he has had an injury ravaged season and is out of form by his standards. Germany were strong all tournament and were worthy winners overall but Argentina gave them a good game tonight.

Exactly

I guess we can say when they win he takes all the credit but if people say Argentina lost because of him, they are just hating or Ronaldo fanboys.

Did he have a great tournament - No
Was he the best player - No

Did he have a terrible tournament - No

Simple as.

 

[agyeiboateng]

A lot of people on this form have an IQ of 11.

When you compared what is being said on here to other forms, it is very evident.

It seems when Ronaldo and Messi lose, its their fault and they are rubbish players.

Oh Christ it's a fanboy, probably on this forum just for transfer gossip and started supporting City hoping we buy Ronaldo or Messi. I'd love to know your IQ

I think this post sums up your IQ

Now I an suddenly a fanboy.

 

[B\connellblue]

Messi is the second best player ever. Maradona stands above him because not only did he take a very average Napoli to the top, he also dragged Argentina to the World title. For some posters to come on here and post such gems as he's shite or he's not worth £1 million really only highlights the fact they need to start watching a different sport as clearly they know nothing about football.

 

[agyeiboateng]

Messi is the second best player ever. Maradona stands above him because not only did he take a very average Napoli to the top, he also dragged Argentina to the World title. For some posters to come on here and post such gems as he's shite or he's not worth £1 million really only highlights the fact they need to start watching a different sport as clearly they no nothing about football.

well said

 

[pudge]

You can't blame Messi for Argentina not winning, I don't think anyone is tbf.

However, it is fair to point out he was poop.

 

[Wio Gumflapdinand]

A lot of people on this form have an IQ of 11.

When you compared what is being said on here to other forms, it is very evident.

It seems when Ronaldo and Messi lose, its their fault and they are rubbish players.

Oh Christ it's a fanboy, probably on this forum just for transfer gossip and started supporting City hoping we buy Ronaldo or Messi. I'd love to know your IQ

I think this post sums up your IQ

Now I an suddenly a fanboy.

Reading many of your posts you have been singing Tortoise face Van Gaals praises a lot more than once...i don't like saying this because it sounds childish but I do think I smell a Rag here. Stick your IQ bollocks about this forum and go back to redcafe you ass

 

[daztrueblue91]

A lot of people on this form have an IQ of 11.

When you compared what is being said on here to other forms, it is very evident.

It seems when Ronaldo and Messi lose, its their fault and they are rubbish players.

To be fair though, when the team is completely set up to accommodate them at the expense of bringing out the best in others and they don't perform they will get some stick.

Argentina didn't lose because of Messi...

The main reason they lost imo was because Germany are just a flat out better team and they were also unlucky with injuries. Messi had a down year last year, Aguero after a blazing start just kept breaking down every 3 weeks and they also lost Di Maria in the last couple of games. Di Maria didnt play in the final and Aguero came on in the 2nd half.

Germany were worthy winners imo and the best team did win, but Argentina were also very unlucky to have their 3 best players broken down.
Tevez also should have went. With their three best attackers all suffering he would have been perfect for this game with his never say die attitude.

I'm not saying they did lose because of Messi.

What I am saying is that throughout the whole world cup Argentina never played to their full potential because they tried too hard to play to Messi's strengths.

This World Cup has shown that the teams who play and work as a team are far more effective than the teams who depend on certain players.

England did it with Rooney, Portugal with Ronaldo, Brazil with Neymar and Argentina with Messi. Compare that to the likes of Holland, Costa Rica and Germany who played a system to bring out the best in the whole team rather than certain players.

Argentina did not have a bad World Cup by any means but on paper they have by far the best strike force in the world. Messi and Aguero are easily in the top 5 in the world and Higuain, Lavezzi and Di Maria would walk into any team in the world. Surprisingly though it was in the defence where they excelled whilst playing a 34 year old CB who wasn't even expected to get in the squad. The fact their defence out performed their attack sums up their performance.

 

[Wio Gumflapdinand]

Messi is the second best player ever. Maradona stands above him because not only did he take a very average Napoli to the top, he also dragged Argentina to the World title. For some posters to come on here and post such gems as he's shite or he's not worth £1 million really only highlights the fact they need to start watching a different sport as clearly they no nothing about football.

Don't be daft and a drama queen like that other poster, nobody said he was shite just that he has not turned up when his team needed him and that maybe he's had it so easy at Barca with a team built around him he's started to rest on his laurels