The World Cup Final.

Wio Gumflapdinand said:
agyeiboateng said:
Wio Gumflapdinand said:
Messi is a lazy fucker who has everything on a platter for him at Barca, forgot what it means to fight for what you want. Had it too easy there, where as Diego went to Napoli and carried that club...Messi could never do that
Huh?

you act like argentina lost in the group stages. They lost in the final to a great german side. no shame in that
He looks either already burnt out (lost that explosiveness) or he's waiting for people to make it happen for him, looks like how is expect him to be in his thirties. I remember Messi closing defenders down and we saw a brief moment of his old self against Hummels first half but now with how it's set up at Barca he just looks to get the glory and doesn't work for the team
Nah not buying that

You can't have achieved what he has in football by being lucky and lazy. Many players have played on great teams but didnt have that much success.
Team game.
 
Balti said:
we need to take a good look at our national team

if the Germans can keep doing this then we too can do better

Our FA is simply shite

when those who are there to fix a problem ARE the problem then you are royally fucked
We should be used to it by now, the FA never knowingly puts a foot right.
The club versus country debate is littered with ''solutions'' as to how players can be forced to be
more ''patriotic''. The question should be , why are they not desperate to represent England.
 
A lot of people on this form have an IQ of 11.

When you compared what is being said on here to other forms, it is very evident.

It seems when Ronaldo and Messi lose, its their fault and they are rubbish players.
 
BigOscar said:
01cravend said:
BigOscar said:
Gutted for the Argentinian defenders and Mascherano, they've been beyond brilliant at this world cup and have been badly let down by the attackers, particularly Messi. How the fuck he got player of the tournament is beyond me, he'd struggle to get in my top 5 Argentinian players of the tournament.

Bit harsh on Messi, he scored more than the rest of his team combined
Because they all constantly pass him the ball and he never gives it back? Fucking woeful in the final third tonight, so often just refusing to pass it to players clear through in favour of trying to dribble the whole team himself.

Well then why pass him the ball all the time
 
agyeiboateng said:
Wio Gumflapdinand said:
agyeiboateng said:
Huh?

you act like argentina lost in the group stages. They lost in the final to a great german side. no shame in that
He looks either already burnt out (lost that explosiveness) or he's waiting for people to make it happen for him, looks like how is expect him to be in his thirties. I remember Messi closing defenders down and we saw a brief moment of his old self against Hummels first half but now with how it's set up at Barca he just looks to get the glory and doesn't work for the team
Nah not buying
You can't have achieved what he has in football by being lucky and lazy. Many players have played on great teams but didnt have that much success.
Team game.
Ok that's your point of view. Knockouts he's done nothing. If you are a fanboy pointless talking to you, but he was poor tonight, poor against Dutch and poor against Swiss. Rodriguez deserved player of tournament or Muller well over him, he wasn't even the best Argentinian player
 
Messi wasn't to blame. The expectations on him were extremely high considering he has had an injury ravaged season and is out of form by his standards. Germany were strong all tournament and were worthy winners overall but Argentina gave them a good game tonight.
 
agyeiboateng said:
A lot of people on this form have an IQ of 11.

When you compared what is being said on here to other forms, it is very evident.

It seems when Ronaldo and Messi lose, its their fault and they are rubbish players.

To be fair though, when the team is completely set up to accommodate them at the expense of bringing out the best in others and they don't perform they will get some stick.
 

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