The worst thing about farcical officiating

[john blue]

He was, defies belief. No backbone whatsoever

Do you think Buzzer, would have said the same,/ !

 

[bluke]

We'll have to wait and see what games Attwell is going to officiate in the next couple of weeks. If he's given some top PL game to ref then it's a clear "fuck you" to City.
If he's put on the back burner or given some shit FA Cup tie, this is an obvious sign PIGMOL know they messed it up badly.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

He was in an offside position the second the ball was played as it ran through to him and he continued to run.
The rules are quite clear and he impacted on the ability of an opponent (in this case more than one) to play the ball.

The only ones I can see disagreeing with this are a handful of biased Rags like Camelgob, Attwell himself and a handful of his PGMOL cronies trying to protect their mate and their place on the gravy train.

Agreed. If Rashford had pulled up and stepped aside earlier in his run but Fernandez had still scored you could have held a "subjective" debate about whether or not he was interfering with play. But the camera shows that he shielded the ball for about 20 yards, dummied as if to shoot (wrong-footing Ederson), and then pulled to the side (still blocking Akanji) to enable Fernandez to score. No weasel words from anyone can dispute Rashford was interfering. I want to know what the VAR team said. Even Ten Hag suggested it should have been disallowed.

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Subjective isn't a buzzword. It's the difference between a decision that is absolute - whether a ball crosses a line, and one which is based on judgement.

Whatever you think of the Rashford decision, please don't try and argue that the English language is now a conspiracy theory ;)

It is when it’s used by ex refs reds and PGMOL. It shouldn’t be down to judgement when deciding whether Rashford interfered with play, it’s a fact according to their own rules, subjection is then used by the ref as to whether he applies those rules, you could argue he has failed in his duty, a sackable offence in most industries, the subjective argument is then used as a smoke & mirror tactic to deflect, and make it seem that it fell in to some kind of grey area. In your opinion, does Geoff Hursts famous goal in 66 fall under subjective or absolute?

 

[eyalluvitt]

Or United…

Doesn’t bare thinking about, if the situation dictates we should gift Arsenal 6 points in return for safe passage in the FA cup. Fight corruption with corruption

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Yes, I was one that desperately wanted VAR so that the more subjective decisions would have a higher level of scrutiny and higher likelihood of being judged correctly. But that was under the assumption they wouldn’t have the “clear and obvious error” threshold, which essentially expands the freedom of interpretation on the pitch (and ability to manipulate, even if it is not always used), rather than half it.

That threshold means that ‘subjective’ decisions (which in reality are most of those made by officials) are now just as varied from official-to-official, match-to-match. Except now they have this “technical” apparatus to legitimise whatever the decision is in that instance, however farcical.

Var does my head in. I know it's for the best but it's taken the sport backwards with the microscopic analysis.

Somehow I preferred the ref making mistakes (pre var) to the mistakes we see with 5 refs and video technology to assist them. It felt more honest.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Doesn’t bare thinking about, if the situation dictates we should gift Arsenal 6 points in return for safe passage in the FA cup. Fight corruption with corruption

This is obviously not a likely scenario at this point, and I may be in the minority on this, but if we’re effectively out of the title race (for whatever reason), and the race for top spot is between Arsenal and United, I would want to to make sure they get 3 points at ours on 26 April.

That is the only scenario where I would want that to happen as losing at home and Arsenal winning the league (with some help from us to fuck over the league and United) is a far better outcome than that self-important shower winning it. Much easier to ignore the London cunts than our family, acquaintances, absolute morons all over social for 12 months. Besides, part of their success would be down to Pep and two of our former players, so there is some credit to be had there.

I struggle holding back the sick just imagining the Rags winning it this season.

 

[RayCTID]

Doesn’t bare thinking about, if the situation dictates we should gift Arsenal 6 points in return for safe passage in the FA cup. Fight corruption with corruption

No chance of that happening. Arsenal beat us in the FA Cup semi final in controversial circumstances in Pep's first season in charge

 

[jim tolmies perm]

We'll have to wait and see what games Attwell is going to officiate in the next couple of weeks. If he's given some top PL game to ref then it's a clear "fuck you" to City.
If he's put on the back burner or given some shit FA Cup tie, this is an obvious sign PIGMOL know they messed it up badly.

Knowing full well when everything has died down they'll come back and shaft us royally again..

 

[Cassandra]

What VAR has done is to expose the inadequate nature of refereeing at the highest level. Pre VAR referees could always hide behind the excuse that they get one view and have to make an instantaneous decision. VAR has taken away that excuse and whilst there has, overall in my view, been a slight improvement it is nowhere near as much as should have been in improving consistency. So the deficiency in refereeing has been exposed.