I think this comment sums up the delusional nature of many of the contributions on here since the final whistle yesterday. For a long time now there has been a campaign to "play the kids" which quite honestly flies in the face of reality. I would give the young lads collectively a 5.5 for this performance. The key feature of this debacle was that it was a non contest from start to finish. Chelski did not break sweat but won easily in a canter really. While our kids did not disgrace themselves the gulf between the teams was massive and we found out what will happen if we by choice or are forced to field a side with these guys in it. With respect to the above post to suggest that Angelino would do a better job than Kolorov borders on the insane. I would not be the Serb's biggest fan and in most circumstances I believe Clichy offers a better alternative but to pretend that an untried kid whose potential has yet to be properly assessed would offer an improvement on an established international is absurd. While some of the performances by the youngsters yesterday were encouraging I don't think anybody put their hands up high and proclaimed that they they deserve an extended run in the first team.
If it has been argued that City should play a team with 6 or 7 youth players, out of position, then I will agree with you, that it is desilusional to think that it will win us many games. However, I think what yesterday showed is that certain players in our senior squad could easily be replaced by some of the young guys. For example Adarabioyo for Demichelis, or one of the Garcia's for Fernando. I don't see how the team performance could have been worse by using these young guys in place of our non performing senior players.I think this comment sums up the delusional nature of many of the contributions on here since the final whistle yesterday. For a long time now there has been a campaign to "play the kids" which quite honestly flies in the face of reality. I would give the young lads collectively a 5.5 for this performance. The key feature of this debacle was that it was a non contest from start to finish. Chelski did not break sweat but won easily in a canter really. While our kids did not disgrace themselves the gulf between the teams was massive and we found out what will happen if we by choice or are forced to field a side with these guys in it. With respect to the above post to suggest that Angelino would do a better job than Kolorov borders on the insane. I would not be the Serb's biggest fan and in most circumstances I believe Clichy offers a better alternative but to pretend that an untried kid whose potential has yet to be properly assessed would offer an improvement on an established international is absurd. While some of the performances by the youngsters yesterday were encouraging I don't think anybody put their hands up high and proclaimed that they they deserve an extended run in the first team.
If I was 20 years younger maybe I would do better than Kolorov!! ok maybe I have failed to take into account just how bad he was and maybe Angelino would be better but the evidence to suggest he would be is not very convincingIt's not absurd to suggest that Angelino may have been less shit that Kolarov, it's possibly true.
That doesn't mean Angelino is ready to start games in the first team, just that he 'may' have been less shit than Kolarov, just as 'untried' Tosin was less shit than Demichelis.
Costa would still have scored the first header if Angelino was marking him. The difference is, that Angeliono may have been marking him.
I think if you play one youth graduate in the starting eleven it elevates their performance. Iheanacho looks brilliant whenever he plays with the first team but struggled yesterday. Equally Manu Garcia looks ready to play some games with the first eleven with his awareness and work ethic.I think this comment sums up the delusional nature of many of the contributions on here since the final whistle yesterday. For a long time now there has been a campaign to "play the kids" which quite honestly flies in the face of reality. I would give the young lads collectively a 5.5 for this performance. The key feature of this debacle was that it was a non contest from start to finish. Chelski did not break sweat but won easily in a canter really. While our kids did not disgrace themselves the gulf between the teams was massive and we found out what will happen if we by choice or are forced to field a side with these guys in it. With respect to the above post to suggest that Angelino would do a better job than Kolorov borders on the insane. I would not be the Serb's biggest fan and in most circumstances I believe Clichy offers a better alternative but to pretend that an untried kid whose potential has yet to be properly assessed would offer an improvement on an established international is absurd. While some of the performances by the youngsters yesterday were encouraging I don't think anybody put their hands up high and proclaimed that they they deserve an extended run in the first team.
If I was 20 years younger maybe I would do better than Kolorov!! ok maybe I have failed to take into account just how bad he was and maybe Angelino would be better but the evidence to suggest he would be is not very convincing
Adarabioyo maybe would be an improvement on Demi as it is obvious that he is finished at this level. One of the Garcia's over Fernando is less clear cut but I agree that it just might work. I am not suggesting that these kids were shit it's just that the game demonstrated that collectively at least they are well short of the mark and nobody really stood out in the same way as say Kelechi has.If it has been argued that City should play a team with 6 or 7 youth players, out of position, then I will agree with you, that it is desilusional to think that it will win us many games. However, I think what yesterday showed is that certain players in our senior squad could easily be replaced by some of the young guys. For example Adarabioyo for Demichelis, or one of the Garcia's for Fernando. I don't see how the team performance could have been worse by using these young guys in place of our non performing senior players.
I don't think it is possible to provide evidence about this. It is a simple question of whether you choose to believe in a kid or not. If you give belief, and a chance to play, the kid may pay you back with good performances. That would be evidence to me. Without a chance to play it is all theory. The problem is that Pellegrini does not believe in the kids, and therefore consequently do not use them.If I was 20 years younger maybe I would do better than Kolorov!! ok maybe I have failed to take into account just how bad he was and maybe Angelino would be better but the evidence to suggest he would be is not very convincing
Not trying to support the guy but he may point out if he was asked and could give an honest answer that it the defensive system we play that is the problem and not the personnel on the field. We seem to be drilled into keeping the defensive line rather than picking up on and trying to neutralise dangerous movement in the final thirdAngelino's defending is suspect. He's a better footballer, by a country mile. How that will pan out as far as his career goes at City, I don't know. But when the ball went down our right, Demichelis fell asleep, Kolarov can see Diego Costa, that's DIEGO COSTA, right in front of him, onside, pulling into an open space, with Chelsea in posession of the ball, looking to cross it.
If Angelino was in that position, & chose to do fuck all to try & prevent a possible free header, it would make me question whether he had enough about him, to play at that level in the future. Kolarov plays at that level every week.
He wouldn't be doing so again, if I was in charge.
I do think you have a point there. A better system would help a lot.Not trying to support the guy but he may point out if he was asked and could give an honest answer that it the defensive system we play that is the problem and not the personnel on the field.
Not trying to support the guy but he may point out if he was asked and could give an honest answer that it the defensive system we play that is the problem and not the personnel on the field. We seem to be drilled into keeping the defensive line rather than picking up on and trying to neutralise dangerous movement in the final third
I do think you have a point there. A better system would help a lot.
Was good to see the young lads get an outing yesterday. Not including Kelechi who is already a special talent there was 3 of them stood out for me and it seems the same 3 did for many on here. My biggest concern is there lack of First Team involvement already this season. We have struggled with Injuries all year and at times have still had players on the bench that could have done with a rest. Why weren't these lads being added to the squad and given opportunities when circumstances dictated. I am sure, and I use this phrase lightly. That we at times are better off carrying a fully fit EDS player than a half fit first teamer who could do with the rest.
I think this comment sums up the delusional nature of many of the contributions on here since the final whistle yesterday. For a long time now there has been a campaign to "play the kids" which quite honestly flies in the face of reality. I would give the young lads collectively a 5.5 for this performance. The key feature of this debacle was that it was a non contest from start to finish. Chelski did not break sweat but won easily in a canter really. While our kids did not disgrace themselves the gulf between the teams was massive and we found out what will happen if we by choice or are forced to field a side with these guys in it. With respect to the above post to suggest that Angelino would do a better job than Kolorov borders on the insane. I would not be the Serb's biggest fan and in most circumstances I believe Clichy offers a better alternative but to pretend that an untried kid whose potential has yet to be properly assessed would offer an improvement on an established international is absurd. While some of the performances by the youngsters yesterday were encouraging I don't think anybody put their hands up high and proclaimed that they they deserve an extended run in the first team.
Big difference been wanting to see a few youngsters get a start here or there than seven of them to start all at once against one of the best teams in the world away from home. And what makes it worst that muppet in charge has had chance after chance to give these players minutes over the past two years yet has failed to do instead he throws them all in the deep end for them to get battered.
Glad Kelechi has broken through although even he should have had many more games like Martial at united and it is absolute disgrace that Denayer was sent out on loan and its proving to be one of the mistakes of the season.
I think this comment sums up the delusional nature of many of the contributions on here since the final whistle yesterday. For a long time now there has been a campaign to "play the kids" which quite honestly flies in the face of reality. I would give the young lads collectively a 5.5 for this performance. The key feature of this debacle was that it was a non contest from start to finish. Chelski did not break sweat but won easily in a canter really. While our kids did not disgrace themselves the gulf between the teams was massive and we found out what will happen if we by choice or are forced to field a side with these guys in it. With respect to the above post to suggest that Angelino would do a better job than Kolorov borders on the insane. I would not be the Serb's biggest fan and in most circumstances I believe Clichy offers a better alternative but to pretend that an untried kid whose potential has yet to be properly assessed would offer an improvement on an established international is absurd. While some of the performances by the youngsters yesterday were encouraging I don't think anybody put their hands up high and proclaimed that they they deserve an extended run in the first team.
I don't think it proved anything of the sort. If anything it proved that the time is right to start integrating them into the first team.Yesterday proved without a doubt that none of them are anywhere near ready to be around our first team. It's no disgrace to say that, we have one of the best squads in the world it would take a miracle to have 5/6 players at that age that are ready for that level of football. We're extremely fortunate we've found one in Kelechi.
Because the manager isn't interested in playing them. He did so yesterday to make a point about fixture congestion. He has had 2 or 3 of them on the bench for a few weeks and didn't bring them on.