Thiago Alcantara

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Mrmcfc said:
Neville Kneville said:
spinzer said:
When you make room for a player like that, you also plan to play him.

The team is more important ffs!!

It's not kids with a toybox, it's professional football.

If Pellegrini has a plan which suits Thiago, we will try to sign him. If he doesn't, we won't.

This lad is not Lionel Messi & he never will be anywhere even close to it. He is 22 yeas old ffs. A full year older than Spain U21's best player.
At the age of 21, Mesi had 38 goals in 51 games for Barca. At 22, 47 in 53.

Those are the kind of players you change your team plans for, not some kid who scores occasionally & plays the odd nice pass.

If Pellegrini believes this lad is of value to us, we will try our best to sign him. If not, we won't.

Fuck me
Comparing him to messi? Really?
Apples and oranges.

So what you're saying is that we're going to be playing a system that accommodates the likes of Barry and milner, but not Thiago? What a crock of shit. Thiago is twice the player of either and is more than capable of playing in numerous formations.

What I'm saying is that we need a variety of players for the Premier League, including players such as Barry & Milner, as some teams won't 'chase shadows' as Zin puts it, they'll just stand in a block & stop us going through them, then when we lose the ball, they'll fuck off straighht down the middle of the pitch past all our wonderful attacking talent, & hoof the ball in the back of the fucking net (like Dortmund & Bayern did to Barca, Real & us). We need to be stronger in that situation, not weaker.

Then, in a side containing Thiago, Silva, Isco, Aguero, Fenandinho, Yaya, Clichy, Zabba.

Lets say the oppo has 6 players who are good in the air, which is quite common.

Who picks up who defending corners & set pieces ?

Did Barca cope particularly well in this area on the few occasions they faced a team with aerial power ? But we will automatically do much better when facing it every fucking week in the Prem ?

If we sign too many small, clever, players, several of them will end up on the bench, moaning.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Mrmcfc said:
Neville Kneville said:
The team is more important ffs!!

It's not kids with a toybox, it's professional football.

If Pellegrini has a plan which suits Thiago, we will try to sign him. If he doesn't, we won't.

This lad is not Lionel Messi & he never will be anywhere even close to it. He is 22 yeas old ffs. A full year older than Spain U21's best player.
At the age of 21, Mesi had 38 goals in 51 games for Barca. At 22, 47 in 53.

Those are the kind of players you change your team plans for, not some kid who scores occasionally & plays the odd nice pass.

If Pellegrini believes this lad is of value to us, we will try our best to sign him. If not, we won't.

Fuck me
Comparing him to messi? Really?
Apples and oranges.

So what you're saying is that we're going to be playing a system that accommodates the likes of Barry and milner, but not Thiago? What a crock of shit. Thiago is twice the player of either and is more than capable of playing in numerous formations.

What I'm saying is that we need a variety of players for the Premier League, including players such as Barry & Milner, as some teams won't 'chase shadows' as Zin puts it, they'll just stand in a block & stop us going through them, then when we lose the ball, they'll fuck off straighht down the middle of the pitch past all our wonderful attacking talent, & hoof the ball in the back of the fucking net (like Dortmund & Bayern did to Barca, Real & us). We need to be stronger in that situation, not weaker.

Then, in a side containing Thiago, Silva, Isco, Aguero, Fenandinho, Yaya, Clichy, Zabba.

Lets say the oppo has 6 players who are good in the air, which is quite common.

Who picks up who defending corners & set pieces ?

Did Barca cope particularly well in this area on the few occasions they faced a team with aerial power ? But we will automatically do much better when facing it every fucking week in the Prem ?

If we sign too many small, clever, players, several of them will end up on the bench, moaning.

I think you'll be surprised by how we attack next year nev, you're to use to playing through the middle with no width- players such as thiago drag the play from left to right or penetrate when needed- teams will not be allowed to park the bus with us like before and you're also ignoring g the physical presence we already have in yaya and now fern!
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Mrmcfc said:
Neville Kneville said:
The team is more important ffs!!

It's not kids with a toybox, it's professional football.

If Pellegrini has a plan which suits Thiago, we will try to sign him. If he doesn't, we won't.

This lad is not Lionel Messi & he never will be anywhere even close to it. He is 22 yeas old ffs. A full year older than Spain U21's best player.
At the age of 21, Mesi had 38 goals in 51 games for Barca. At 22, 47 in 53.

Those are the kind of players you change your team plans for, not some kid who scores occasionally & plays the odd nice pass.

If Pellegrini believes this lad is of value to us, we will try our best to sign him. If not, we won't.

Fuck me
Comparing him to messi? Really?
Apples and oranges.

So what you're saying is that we're going to be playing a system that accommodates the likes of Barry and milner, but not Thiago? What a crock of shit. Thiago is twice the player of either and is more than capable of playing in numerous formations.

The thing with nev is he ignores blatant potential, knows his stuff don't get me wrong but refuses to get caught up in 'hype'-

To add my 2p worth, I agree with you, the players we're accumulating would have one of the best conductors in the game within 12 months, he's 5x the player of silva IMO and I'd be balls deep for him- a collective of isco, silva and thiago would be unreal, the prem would be chasing fucking shadows!!!!

5x the player of Silva? A slight over-exaggeration there lol
 
Neville Kneville said:
Mrmcfc said:
Neville Kneville said:
The team is more important ffs!!

It's not kids with a toybox, it's professional football.

If Pellegrini has a plan which suits Thiago, we will try to sign him. If he doesn't, we won't.

This lad is not Lionel Messi & he never will be anywhere even close to it. He is 22 yeas old ffs. A full year older than Spain U21's best player.
At the age of 21, Mesi had 38 goals in 51 games for Barca. At 22, 47 in 53.

Those are the kind of players you change your team plans for, not some kid who scores occasionally & plays the odd nice pass.

If Pellegrini believes this lad is of value to us, we will try our best to sign him. If not, we won't.

Fuck me
Comparing him to messi? Really?
Apples and oranges.

So what you're saying is that we're going to be playing a system that accommodates the likes of Barry and milner, but not Thiago? What a crock of shit. Thiago is twice the player of either and is more than capable of playing in numerous formations.

What I'm saying is that we need a variety of players for the Premier League, including players such as Barry & Milner, as some teams won't 'chase shadows' as Zin puts it, they'll just stand in a block & stop us going through them, then when we lose the ball, they'll fuck off straighht down the middle of the pitch past all our wonderful attacking talent, & hoof the ball in the back of the fucking net (like Dortmund & Bayern did to Barca, Real & us). We need to be stronger in that situation, not weaker.

Then, in a side containing Thiago, Silva, Isco, Aguero, Fenandinho, Yaya, Clichy, Zabba.

Lets say the oppo has 6 players who are good in the air, which is quite common.

Who picks up who defending corners & set pieces ?

Did Barca cope particularly well in this area on the few occasions they faced a team with aerial power ? But we will automatically do much better when facing it every fucking week in the Prem ?

If we sign too many small, clever, players, several of them will end up on the bench, moaning.
I do see your point.
But I don't think it will be as big an issue as you think, not big enough to pass up on thiago in any case.
 
Vincents Tackle said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Mrmcfc said:
Fuck me
Comparing him to messi? Really?
Apples and oranges.

So what you're saying is that we're going to be playing a system that accommodates the likes of Barry and milner, but not Thiago? What a crock of shit. Thiago is twice the player of either and is more than capable of playing in numerous formations.

The thing with nev is he ignores blatant potential, knows his stuff don't get me wrong but refuses to get caught up in 'hype'-

To add my 2p worth, I agree with you, the players we're accumulating would have one of the best conductors in the game within 12 months, he's 5x the player of silva IMO and I'd be balls deep for him- a collective of isco, silva and thiago would be unreal, the prem would be chasing fucking shadows!!!!

5x the player of Silva? A slight over-exaggeration there lol

This 'lol' nonsense, if you're going to quote me use some fucking proper dialect in retort please!!!

As for the potential in the kid, saying 5x is obviously an off the cuff comment, however, silva who is undoubtedly class, I would trade tomorrow for him, a complete diamond who will be one of the top players in world football!
 
Vincents Tackle said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Mrmcfc said:
Fuck me
Comparing him to messi? Really?
Apples and oranges.

So what you're saying is that we're going to be playing a system that accommodates the likes of Barry and milner, but not Thiago? What a crock of shit. Thiago is twice the player of either and is more than capable of playing in numerous formations.

The thing with nev is he ignores blatant potential, knows his stuff don't get me wrong but refuses to get caught up in 'hype'-

To add my 2p worth, I agree with you, the players we're accumulating would have one of the best conductors in the game within 12 months, he's 5x the player of silva IMO and I'd be balls deep for him- a collective of isco, silva and thiago would be unreal, the prem would be chasing fucking shadows!!!!

5x the player of Silva? A slight over-exaggeration there lol

No it was slight under exaggeration should have been 10
 
I know there's a fair bit of excitement about Thiago because of Graham Hunter's tweet but I can't see us going for Thiago. From what I understand (reading an old Sid Lowe article on Aguero's release clause) that the release clause in Spanish contracts is quite complex and you don't simply pay €18m and get the player. I understand there's VAT on top plus the selling club can also play silly beggars to frustrate the buyer a fair bit. Considering our dreadful relationship with Barcelona I can't see any deal for Thiago being sanctioned by them without a lot of problems. They may pave the way for the rags to sign Thiago as part of the on-going feud with them.
 
richards30 said:
but are we in for him zin?

With ADL refusing to budge on the buy out clause for Cavani, I'd sack him off and go all out for Isco and Thiago.

2 of the worlds best up and coming players for less than the price Napoli want for Cavani.
 
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