Fanny Fart said:didactic said:Ant said:I moved 10 years ago the NZ... wild horses would not take me back to the UK
if your a hard worker and have some reasonable skill. all of the above mentioned countries will welcome you.
I still have a huge place in my heart for the UK but i will never return to live, im a KIWI now.. it is hard to leave family but they can always visit for a free accomodation holiday and spend quality time with you.
Whats the worst that can happen ? you go back to the UK after a year ?
10 years for you to turn your back on being British tsk, tsk.
I am going to move to South America / Africa in the next two years sorting out the final stages and getting the right qualifications so I can be very comfortable. The standard of life for what I am earning now over there is about 10 times better than how I am living now and to be honest I feel like I am getting ripped off at every turn over here.
Aren't you the poster who had a Brazilian model for a girlfriend?
What are you planning to do in southamerica? I think I'll be moving to Buenos Aires next year but at this moment in time all I'll be able to do is teach English
inbetween said:Unless you can get sponsored by an employer you can't even get into these places without knowing someone who is already there, especially the USA and Australia, don't know much about Canada. I'd consider somewhere in the EU where if it all goes tits up you can just move back at the least expense.
A place like Australia is a long trip home if you just fancy seeing the relatives back here!
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MCFCinUSA said:inbetween said:Unless you can get sponsored by an employer you can't even get into these places without knowing someone who is already there, especially the USA and Australia, don't know much about Canada. I'd consider somewhere in the EU where if it all goes tits up you can just move back at the least expense.
A place like Australia is a long trip home if you just fancy seeing the relatives back here!
the USA is generally speaking harder to get into than Canada & Australia, but the latter two countries are generally amenable to qualified younger applicants.
MCFCinUSA said:personally speaking I've never had any problems getting out & about (lived in NYC, Atlanta, Istanbul & Chicago; visited & stayed short-term in many other cities in North America, Europe & Asia) and would recommend anyone get experience living overseas, if you're that way suited/inclined.
if the glove fits, you may enjoy more permanently wearing it - but you'll not get back as much to see City and may end up missing all of Kinkladze's matches (my biggest City loss) but then you can't have your cake & eat it.
- for me North America represents best value (in all ways, from the lingo to the people and economic opportunities) including its geographic location, as I don't want to be too cut-off and remote.
nimrod said:MCFCinUSA said:personally speaking I've never had any problems getting out & about (lived in NYC, Atlanta, Istanbul & Chicago; visited & stayed short-term in many other cities in North America, Europe & Asia) and would recommend anyone get experience living overseas, if you're that way suited/inclined.
if the glove fits, you may enjoy more permanently wearing it - but you'll not get back as much to see City and may end up missing all of Kinkladze's matches (my biggest City loss) but then you can't have your cake & eat it.
- for me North America represents best value (in all ways, from the lingo to the people and economic opportunities) including its geographic location, as I don't want to be too cut-off and remote.
I lived in the USA before Coming to Oz, one thing I would mention, is that even though Oz is a lot further away, your not so much a foreigner here, there are Brits everywhere, Im constantly getting served by Brits in banks, shops, resturaunts etc etc... whereas when I lived in LA, the only way to find them was to go to the English pub in Santa Monica, just a handful in there
MCFCinUSA said:nimrod said:MCFCinUSA said:personally speaking I've never had any problems getting out & about (lived in NYC, Atlanta, Istanbul & Chicago; visited & stayed short-term in many other cities in North America, Europe & Asia) and would recommend anyone get experience living overseas, if you're that way suited/inclined.
if the glove fits, you may enjoy more permanently wearing it - but you'll not get back as much to see City and may end up missing all of Kinkladze's matches (my biggest City loss) but then you can't have your cake & eat it.
- for me North America represents best value (in all ways, from the lingo to the people and economic opportunities) including its geographic location, as I don't want to be too cut-off and remote.
I lived in the USA before Coming to Oz, one thing I would mention, is that even though Oz is a lot further away, your not so much a foreigner here, there are Brits everywhere, Im constantly getting served by Brits in banks, shops, resturaunts etc etc... whereas when I lived in LA, the only way to find them was to go to the English pub in Santa Monica, just a handful in there
Nimrod - are you complaining about this???
(I don't mind being the 'odd' Brit, it definitely has its advantages)
* also, it's a lot quicker to get from here back to the UK; handy to catch the odd match now and again ;o)
inbetween said:Unless you can get sponsored by an employer you can't even get into these places without knowing someone who is already there, especially the USA and Australia, don't know much about Canada. I'd consider somewhere in the EU where if it all goes tits up you can just move back at the least expense.
A place like Australia is a long trip home if you just fancy seeing the relatives back here!
MCFCinUSA said:nimrod said:MCFCinUSA said:personally speaking I've never had any problems getting out & about (lived in NYC, Atlanta, Istanbul & Chicago; visited & stayed short-term in many other cities in North America, Europe & Asia) and would recommend anyone get experience living overseas, if you're that way suited/inclined.
if the glove fits, you may enjoy more permanently wearing it - but you'll not get back as much to see City and may end up missing all of Kinkladze's matches (my biggest City loss) but then you can't have your cake & eat it.
- for me North America represents best value (in all ways, from the lingo to the people and economic opportunities) including its geographic location, as I don't want to be too cut-off and remote.
I lived in the USA before Coming to Oz, one thing I would mention, is that even though Oz is a lot further away, your not so much a foreigner here, there are Brits everywhere, Im constantly getting served by Brits in banks, shops, resturaunts etc etc... whereas when I lived in LA, the only way to find them was to go to the English pub in Santa Monica, just a handful in there
Nimrod - are you complaining about this???
(I don't mind being the 'odd' Brit, it definitely has its advantages)
* also, it's a lot quicker to get from here back to the UK; handy to catch the odd match now and again ;o)
pominoz said:inbetween said:Unless you can get sponsored by an employer you can't even get into these places without knowing someone who is already there, especially the USA and Australia, don't know much about Canada. I'd consider somewhere in the EU where if it all goes tits up you can just move back at the least expense.
A place like Australia is a long trip home if you just fancy seeing the relatives back here!
Melbourne to Manchester is about a 22 hour flight, not that bad really.
inbetween said:pominoz said:inbetween said:Unless you can get sponsored by an employer you can't even get into these places without knowing someone who is already there, especially the USA and Australia, don't know much about Canada. I'd consider somewhere in the EU where if it all goes tits up you can just move back at the least expense.
A place like Australia is a long trip home if you just fancy seeing the relatives back here!
Melbourne to Manchester is about a 22 hour flight, not that bad really.
It's not bad not at all to see family but it isn't cheap, if your just starting up out there then a flight back isn't going to be the easiest thing to find the money for. Was just saying an EU country because if it goes wrong you can just pack up and pretty much get the bus home.
ChicagoBlue said:Left UK at 18 for Uni in the States and never moved back! US has PLENTY of flaws, but after being in England for more than a few days, I miss "home." Maybe if I lived in some bucolic village in the UK, I might not find it so difficult to stay away from the US (and my wife and kids) for too long, but the UK of 30 years ago is NOTHING like the UK I see today when I visit.
Maybe it is just some romantic notion of what life was like when I was a teenager, but the UK seems to be on something of a downward spiral away from what made Britain British. I don't just mean just the masses of immigrants and a massive culture shift, but the entire way of life.
If i was 18 again (or just out of Uni in the UK at about 21), I would DEFINITELY look to move abroad and take advantage of opportunities. There is always a way back to Britain, but the world is a big place and there are myriad things to see and do everywhere else, too.
And, that is not to say the USA would be my first choice if I was to do it again, as Oz and ESPECIALLY NZ look like the last, best unspoiled civilized places on earth. I will definitely visit NZ in the near future and might even retire down there, as long as the satellite TV is decent for the EPL! However, might not be able to hold on to my seasoncard if I ever do make that move, as it is a bit further to travel than from Chicago to Manchester, which is a quick 7 hours overnight!
nimrod said:not complaining mate, just more saying I dont like 'feeling' like a foreigner every day
and we even have HRH on our coins :)
MCFCinUSA said:ChicagoBlue said:Left UK at 18 for Uni in the States and never moved back! US has PLENTY of flaws, but after being in England for more than a few days, I miss "home." Maybe if I lived in some bucolic village in the UK, I might not find it so difficult to stay away from the US (and my wife and kids) for too long, but the UK of 30 years ago is NOTHING like the UK I see today when I visit.
Maybe it is just some romantic notion of what life was like when I was a teenager, but the UK seems to be on something of a downward spiral away from what made Britain British. I don't just mean just the masses of immigrants and a massive culture shift, but the entire way of life.
If i was 18 again (or just out of Uni in the UK at about 21), I would DEFINITELY look to move abroad and take advantage of opportunities. There is always a way back to Britain, but the world is a big place and there are myriad things to see and do everywhere else, too.
And, that is not to say the USA would be my first choice if I was to do it again, as Oz and ESPECIALLY NZ look like the last, best unspoiled civilized places on earth. I will definitely visit NZ in the near future and might even retire down there, as long as the satellite TV is decent for the EPL! However, might not be able to hold on to my seasoncard if I ever do make that move, as it is a bit further to travel than from Chicago to Manchester, which is a quick 7 hours overnight!
I've not been out down under yet myself, but am looking to at some point.. let me know when you're planning a trip
;o)
nimrod said:not complaining mate, just more saying I dont like 'feeling' like a foreigner every day
and we even have HRH on our coins :)
I think it helps if you're going to become an expat not to worry about the above, and possibly even to revel in it..
certainly I've no problems being identified as a foreigner in most situations (although I never seek the 'tourist' label; this being the worst when you live somewhere) but then I don't really care about what people think of me, period; which can be very liberating!
pominoz said:I know what you mean, but a return flight Melbourne to Manchester is about $2,000, that's 2 weeks average wage.
wayne71 said:pominoz said:I know what you mean, but a return flight Melbourne to Manchester is about $2,000, that's 2 weeks average wage.
Is there any way of booking via a UK website for flights? Its just that I've seen return flights for less than 1k with emirates but that was when I was in the UK.
pominoz said:wayne71 said:pominoz said:I know what you mean, but a return flight Melbourne to Manchester is about $2,000, that's 2 weeks average wage.
Is there any way of booking via a UK website for flights? Its just that I've seen return flights for less than 1k with emirates but that was when I was in the UK.
Not sure, mate. I always book through the local travel agent (friend of the Mrs, owns it).
Although the last time i went to Europe my mate booked the tickets in Stockholm ( Air China, the twat) and it was 2/3 cheaper than Qantas/BA, for a very good reason as i found out to my cost.
wayne71 said:pominoz said:wayne71 said:Is there any way of booking via a UK website for flights? Its just that I've seen return flights for less than 1k with emirates but that was when I was in the UK.
Not sure, mate. I always book through the local travel agent (friend of the Mrs, owns it).
Although the last time i went to Europe my mate booked the tickets in Stockholm ( Air China, the twat) and it was 2/3 cheaper than Qantas/BA, for a very good reason as i found out to my cost.
Just checked via emirates uk website and a man-per return is £862 for the 1st/19 nov and the same dates per-man return is $2062, doesn't seem right!
pominoz said:wayne71 said:pominoz said:Not sure, mate. I always book through the local travel agent (friend of the Mrs, owns it).
Although the last time i went to Europe my mate booked the tickets in Stockholm ( Air China, the twat) and it was 2/3 cheaper than Qantas/BA, for a very good reason as i found out to my cost.
Just checked via emirates uk website and a man-per return is £862 for the 1st/19 nov and the same dates per-man return is $2062, doesn't seem right!
That does seem well out, just had a look on an online money converter and 863= about $1300. Robbing bastards here :(
May have to do with season tariffs, ie northern winter/southern summer.
Can ask the Mrs mate if you want.
wayne71 said:pominoz said:wayne71 said:Just checked via emirates uk website and a man-per return is £862 for the 1st/19 nov and the same dates per-man return is $2062, doesn't seem right!
That does seem well out, just had a look on an online money converter and 863= about $1300. Robbing bastards here :(
May have to do with season tariffs, ie northern winter/southern summer.
Can ask the Mrs mate if you want.
If you wouldn't mind mate would be interesting to know, not that I want to go back any time soon was just a bit of a shock to see it at over $2k!