This Weeks other PL Fixtures Week 6

[Neville Kneville]

I love how you talk about evidence after rambling on about how sterling would have scored against the defences Martial has played against and Martial would have missed against West Ham and Juventus.

You genuinely don't seem to realise how absurd that sounds. Just think about it eh?

In your eyes he's stumbled and the balls got caught between his legs. In everyone else's he's remained composed and waited for the defender to slide in and get nowhere.

Sterling scored a goal against Watford but if that was bayern Munich then he wouldn't have scored because their defence wouldn't have left him like that, so it doesn't count. Do you realise how ridiculous that sort of shite sounds?

Sterling is not a striker, I have no idea how many he will score against anybody. And where did I say it 'doesn't count' ? I'm not the one slagging off our players and bulling up our rivals' I'm saying it's ridiculouis to make such assumptions on these showings. Which it is.

As for the idea t's more difficult to play v Bayern Munich than Watford, well, YES it is! Same as we have had more difficult job than the rags did vs Southampton or Liverpool.

And as for getting the ball caught under his foot yes he did. I don't care whether the media machine says otherwise, I have seen him do it. Yes he tricked the defender, just as Depay did the other one. Poor defending both times. But he then took too long moving the ball due to a slightly iffy touch & still got time to score. Not his problem, he scored.

Piss poor defending for every goal. Piss poor defending for every goal Utd have scored never mind Martial, Mata's goal was fucking apalling allowing Depay (who was better than Martial in the game) to come inside. Had he passed to Martial, he would have been unmarked, on a hat trick.

Add Depay to the 'better than sterling' list while you are at it. He has scored better goals than Marial.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Sterling is not a striker, I have no idea how many he will score against anybody. And where did I say it 'doesn't count' ? I'm not the one slagging off our players and bulling up our rivals' I'm saying it's ridiculouis to make such assumptions on these showings. Which it is.

As for the idea t's more difficult to play v Bayern Munich than Watford, well, YES it is! Same as we have had more difficult job than the rags did vs Southampton or Liverpool.

And as for getting the ball caught under his foot yes he did. I don't care whether the media machine says otherwise, I have seen him do it. Yes he tricked the defender, just as Depay did the other one. Poor defending both times. But he then took too long moving the ball due to a slightly iffy touch & still got time to score. Not his problem, he scored.

Piss poor defending for every goal. Piss poor defending for every goal Utd have scored never mind Martial, Mata's goal was fucking apalling allowing Depay (who was better than Martial in the game) to come inside. Had he passed to Martial, he would have been unmarked, on a hat trick.

Add Depay to the 'better than sterling' list while you are at it. He has scored better goals than Marial.

I like to be honest and forthright in my opinions. I'm not slagging off any of our players, I'm just saying Sterling's done very very little. Martial on the other hand is showing why he cost what he did. So far.

I'm not adding Depay to any 'list'. It's you who seems obsessed by the goal thing. Depay and Sterling have done as little as each other since they arrived at their respective clubs.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I like to be honest and forthright in my opinions. I'm not slagging off any of our players, I'm just saying Sterling's done very very little. Martial on the other hand is showing why he cost what he did. So far.

I'm not adding Depay to any 'list'. It's you who seems obsessed by the goal thing. Depay and Sterling have done as little as each other since they arrived at their respective clubs.

That's absolutely untrue & unfair & just shows you have a problem with Sterling, as I thought.

Sterling has made a huge difference to City as a team. There is more to football than a couple of tricks in 90 mins. Sterling has instantly become a fully integreated member of the best team in the country, attacking defending & generally doing a great job, which is instantly missed as soon as he leaves the field.

If you take away 30 secs of goals mainly helped by piss poor defending, Martial & DePay put together don't add up to Felaini.

If Martial or Depay or any of the rags for that matter, were to come into City's team, the standard of play would drop instantly, as would the workrate.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

That's absolutely untrue & unfair & just shows you have a problem with Sterling, as I thought.

Sterling has made a huge difference to City as a team. There is more to football than a couple of tricks in 90 mins. Sterling has instantly become a fully integreated member of the best team in the country, attacking defending & generally doing a great job, which is instantly missed as soon as he leaves the field.

If you take away 30 secs of goals mainly helped by piss poor defending, Martial & DePay put together don't add up to Felaini.

If Martial or Depay or any of the rags for that matter, were to come into City's team, the standard of play would drop instantly, as would the workrate.

Well if you take away 2 or 3 minutes worth of goals last season Aguero would have been shite too, judging by your reasoning?

Yeah Sterling's worked hard, I agree with that. I actually commented at the juventus game about how he fights for possession back when he loses it, so in that respect then yeah fair play to him. But Navas is in that same boat on the other wing. His end product, like Sterling, has been poor and his crossing has been below par of what you would expect from a top player. Yet he's widely criticised and seems to be highlighted as a weak link for us where as Sterling isn't allowed to be criticised?

I don't believe the standard of play would drop with Martial included. He seems to work hard enough and the times I've seen him on tv he tracks back fairly well.

He's got off to a dream start, Sterling has been decent and therein lies the difference.

 

[thyer64]

I don't believe the standard of play would drop with Martial included. He seems to work hard enough and the times I've seen him on tv he tracks back fairly well.

He's got off to a dream start, Sterling has been decent and therein lies the difference.

You do know that some players find it easier to play their own game when they move to a new league because opposition defenders haven't quite worked a way how to stop them right? Last season Kane was a revelation, however so far this season, anonymous, possibly due to being found out.

Sterling also gave us what we needed, which was a direct approach from the left. The only thing missing is his finishing, which will come good. There is also a difference in comparing Southampton to Juventus, one with Some of Italy's best defenders vs one consisting of Van Dyke...a player who was overshadowed by our own Denayer in a crap Scottish league, as well as Southampton being a shadow of team of last season

 

[ayrshire_blue]

You do know that some players find it easier to play their own game when they move to a new league because opposition defenders haven't quite worked a way how to stop them right? Last season Kane was a revelation, however so far this season, anonymous, possibly due to being found out.

Sterling also gave us what we needed, which was a direct approach from the left. The only thing missing is his finishing, which will come good. There is also a difference in comparing Southampton to Juventus, one with Some of Italy's best defenders vs one consisting of Van Dyke...a player who was overshadowed by our own Denayer in a crap Scottish league, as well as Southampton being a shadow of team of last season

I don't disagree with any part of this post and I'm not sure what you're getting at with it. I never said Martial will go on and be the much better player than Sterling and that players won't work him out. All I'm saying is he's had a dream start for United compared to Sterling's decent one for us. I don't get the issue in that statement. And it may well be for the reasons you've mentioned. Infact I hope it is.

 

[steviemc]

Martial took his first premier goal well, but needed a bit of luck as the ball certainly didn't stick to him. He was gifted the ball for his first goal yesterday, but did look composed all the same. His first yesterday is the type of goal a striker would be disappointed to miss, so it doesn't really tell us a great deal. The second goal he needed to do a bit more work with and didn't strike it cleanly, but scored all the same. I take nothing away from him, the guy's got off to a good start, but I haven't a clue whether he's gonna be the real deal - it's way too early to tell.

I quite like his attitude, and helping out his opponent on the pitch won't do him any harm from potential detractors.

I think it's impossible to compare Martial and Sterling as their intended roles and effectiveness seem to be so different. Sterling has given far more outside the penalty area than Martial has without a doubt, something we were hoping he would provide, and Martial has scored goals, something that the rags were hoping he'd provide.. That's all there is to it at the moment. Consistency over the season will tell us who was more effective for their team.