Time for the CFG to get teams in Ireland and Scotland.

kun said:
Ireland, as an island, have consistently produced some top quality footballing talent. It didn't just start with Ferguson.
From Blanchflower and Best to Roy and Robbie Keane. Keepers like Jennings, Bonner and now Bazunu and Kelleher.
Players like Niall Quinn, Richard Dunne, Stephen Ireland, Shay Given, Glenn Whelan, Kevin Horlock, Steve Lomas, Terry Phelan, Damien Duff, Steve Finnan, Shane Long, Dennis Irwin, Seamus Coleman, Paul McGrath, Matt Doherty, James McCarthy, John O'Shea, Johnny Evans, Kevin Kilbane, Steve Staunton, Aiden McGeady and Nathan Collins prove there is a constant stream of PL level players - with occasional world-class talents.

Investing in a club in Ireland would make sense IMO. The LOI is at a very low standard right now but could improve. That would mean it would take comparatively little investment to make a large impact. It would no doubt be a loss making venture at first but if the club can move the talent through the CFG pipeline they could make serious cash off some Irish talent. Say we buy Cork City, and a young Robbie Keane comes through - he may not be good enough for city but he could go to Troyes, Girona, NYCFC or another CFG side and increase their value. An Irish club would make an excellent haven for young loan players as well - as the level is low but physical and they speak English. It would be similar to owning a national league side in that way.

The talent is there - Gaelic football is not a meaningful competitor as you simply cannot make the same sort of living in GAA. The grassroots needs extra funding in Ireland but that could begin with a new CFG club. Also, Gaelic games are less easy to just play with your mates in a park.
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Few if any Irish clubs are interested in this model, they favour the fan ownership model and would run far from this, Shelbourne FC are now controlled by the Hull owners but that will be very much the exception. The league itself is growing quickly, attendances are up massively and many grounds are sold out. Teams have very good youth set ups and connections to local youth teams. Issue though is keeping the talented youth as many get taken by foreign clubs. My local team has lost in the past couple of weeks players to Serie A and La Liga clubs. Funding is of course an issue as its crazy the money gaa and the racing industry gets compared to football but that will change and the sooner the better.
 
kun said:
Ireland, as an island, have consistently produced some top quality footballing talent. It didn't just start with Ferguson.
From Blanchflower and Best to Roy and Robbie Keane. Keepers like Jennings, Bonner and now Bazunu and Kelleher.
Players like Niall Quinn, Richard Dunne, Stephen Ireland, Shay Given, Glenn Whelan, Kevin Horlock, Steve Lomas, Terry Phelan, Damien Duff, Steve Finnan, Shane Long, Dennis Irwin, Seamus Coleman, Paul McGrath, Matt Doherty, James McCarthy, John O'Shea, Johnny Evans, Kevin Kilbane, Steve Staunton, Aiden McGeady and Nathan Collins prove there is a constant stream of PL level players - with occasional world-class talents.

Investing in a club in Ireland would make sense IMO. The LOI is at a very low standard right now but could improve. That would mean it would take comparatively little investment to make a large impact. It would no doubt be a loss making venture at first but if the club can move the talent through the CFG pipeline they could make serious cash off some Irish talent. Say we buy Cork City, and a young Robbie Keane comes through - he may not be good enough for city but he could go to Troyes, Girona, NYCFC or another CFG side and increase their value. An Irish club would make an excellent haven for young loan players as well - as the level is low but physical and they speak English. It would be similar to owning a national league side in that way.

The talent is there - Gaelic football is not a meaningful competitor as you simply cannot make the same sort of living in GAA. The grassroots needs extra funding in Ireland but that could begin with a new CFG club. Also, Gaelic games are less easy to just play with your mates in a park.
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Maybe a dare to dream type academy over there then?

You’ve listed about 35 players there that have come through in 70+ years.

Is an academy worthwhile, when we were able to get Bazunu cheaply anyway?
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Dublin winning the ladies and lads double was big here.
Personally I’d love to see us be able to compete at the hurling too.
Hurling is an absolute joy to watch played skilfully at incredible speed. And it’s unique to us.

The GAA is an amateur organisation managed professionally.
The FAI is a professional organisation managed amateurishly.

Football may be the most played but it is underfunded at every level, especially at grassroots level.

The GAA are in every parish on the island and it breathes community because you play for your locality.

The money does trickle down.
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Delighted the Dubs won the all Ireland, can see no contradiction in following The Dubs and Bohs, anymore than following City and Lancy cricket.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Perhaps, but maybe not with a capital "H" let alone "Heart of Midlothian"...likewise there'll be stuff for wolves, reading, bury and a few others haha.

Luke 11:31 "The Queen of the South shall rise up at the judgment with the men of this generation and condemn them"
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Sergio 93:20 “And as he strikes out we shall rejoice at the Crystal Palace”
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Maybe a dare to dream type academy over there then?

You’ve listed about 35 players there that have come through in 70+ years.

Is an academy worthwhile, when we were able to get Bazunu cheaply anyway?
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the list was of 30 or so players over 30 or so PL years - excluding Blanchfloer and Best (deliberately used to show how long talent has been produced in Ireland.

I mean, you're right about Bazunu and generally all Irish talent - Seamus Coleman cost about £50k - but English clubs are no longer allowed to sign players under 18 from abroad so Irish players are likely to stay for another couple of years - at their current level of infrastructure and coaching that could stunt their development.

tommy116 said:
Few if any Irish clubs are interested in this model, they favour the fan ownership model and would run far from this, Shelbourne FC are now controlled by the Hull owners but that will be very much the exception. The league itself is growing quickly, attendances are up massively and many grounds are sold out. Teams have very good youth set ups and connections to local youth teams. Issue though is keeping the talented youth as many get taken by foreign clubs. My local team has lost in the past couple of weeks players to Serie A and La Liga clubs. Funding is of course an issue as its crazy the money gaa and the racing industry gets compared to football but that will change and the sooner the better.
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That is fair - but Shelbourne proves the model is possible in Ireland.
CFG would be able to hold on to better talent and would invest most of their money in infrastructure and coaching - create a CFA in whatever City the club is from and work on developing talent and maximizing their value (both in total and for the club specifically). The fact the league is growing would be another positive in terms of CFG investment.
 
kun said:
Ireland, as an island, have consistently produced some top quality footballing talent. It didn't just start with Ferguson.
From Blanchflower and Best to Roy and Robbie Keane. Keepers like Jennings, Bonner and now Bazunu and Kelleher.
Players like Niall Quinn, Richard Dunne, Stephen Ireland, Shay Given, Glenn Whelan, Kevin Horlock, Steve Lomas, Terry Phelan, Damien Duff, Steve Finnan, Shane Long, Dennis Irwin, Seamus Coleman, Paul McGrath, Matt Doherty, James McCarthy, John O'Shea, Johnny Evans, Kevin Kilbane, Steve Staunton, Aiden McGeady and Nathan Collins prove there is a constant stream of PL level players - with occasional world-class talents.

Investing in a club in Ireland would make sense IMO. The LOI is at a very low standard right now but could improve. That would mean it would take comparatively little investment to make a large impact. It would no doubt be a loss making venture at first but if the club can move the talent through the CFG pipeline they could make serious cash off some Irish talent. Say we buy Cork City, and a young Robbie Keane comes through - he may not be good enough for city but he could go to Troyes, Girona, NYCFC or another CFG side and increase their value. An Irish club would make an excellent haven for young loan players as well - as the level is low but physical and they speak English. It would be similar to owning a national league side in that way.

The talent is there - Gaelic football is not a meaningful competitor as you simply cannot make the same sort of living in GAA. The grassroots needs extra funding in Ireland but that could begin with a new CFG club. Also, Gaelic games are less easy to just play with your mates in a park.
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You should have started with Peter Doherty surely?
 
TonyM said:
Rebel Og (u12-u18s in Cork) are absolutely fantastic to be involved with. Adult GAA is great too obviously but it's at the youth level that the real parish spirit exists.

Soccer should be watching and learning from it but I think they are too elitist.
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No. The same commitment goes in from parents, but your still scraping enough for jerseys and if you have a dressing room you are doing very well.

It’s just the FAI are cnuts. Always were and it seems always will be.

I stopped going to the internationals years ago out of disgust for them.
 
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