Time for the CFG to get teams in Ireland and Scotland.

Xhavenjoe said:
Sterling didn't come from England, Laporte didn't come from Spain, its the same with every country.
The best example of a person happy to play for " his country " is Erling Haaland, born in England.
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What next?
Are you going to tell me Ferguson isn’t Irish?
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I think you’ll find that those that play football(soccer) have no problem supporting their county in GAA. After all we probably all played GAA too at school.

You’ll find that the GAA when you get to a serious level though, frown upon their members playing football (soccer).

I played donkeys years ago at not that high a level with a Dublin footballer, who used to come out for pure enjoyment on a Sunday when he could. He couldn’t let on to the Dublin panel that he was doing this though, even though they were both just amateur sports.

People over here generally follow duel codes, as we say.

I currently work with an ex Dublin legend. He’s an Everton supporter.
Must ask him where that came from.
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Kevin Moran played for the Dubs one summer while with the rags, GPC deeply unimpressed and put a stop to it, feared he could get injured.
 
Xhavenjoe said:
Sterling didn't come from England, Laporte didn't come from Spain, its the same with every country.
The best example of a person happy to play for " his country " is Erli
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Xhavenjoe said:
No , quite the opposite.
Replying to posters saying that Aidan McGeady and Terry Phelan aren't irish.
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I didn't say McGeady wasn't Irish.
My point was that he didn't play his football in Ireland which is what the thread is about.
Loads of players can quite legitimately play for more than one country as they have heritage from more than one country.
 
kun said:
Ireland, as an island, have consistently produced some top quality footballing talent. It didn't just start with Ferguson.
From Blanchflower and Best to Roy and Robbie Keane. Keepers like Jennings, Bonner and now Bazunu and Kelleher.
Players like Niall Quinn, Richard Dunne, Stephen Ireland, Shay Given, Glenn Whelan, Kevin Horlock, Steve Lomas, Terry Phelan, Damien Duff, Steve Finnan, Shane Long, Dennis Irwin, Seamus Coleman, Paul McGrath, Matt Doherty, James McCarthy, John O'Shea, Johnny Evans, Kevin Kilbane, Steve Staunton, Aiden McGeady and Nathan Collins prove there is a constant stream of PL level players - with occasional world-class talents.

Investing in a club in Ireland would make sense IMO. The LOI is at a very low standard right now but could improve. That would mean it would take comparatively little investment to make a large impact. It would no doubt be a loss making venture at first but if the club can move the talent through the CFG pipeline they could make serious cash off some Irish talent. Say we buy Cork City, and a young Robbie Keane comes through - he may not be good enough for city but he could go to Troyes, Girona, NYCFC or another CFG side and increase their value. An Irish club would make an excellent haven for young loan players as well - as the level is low but physical and they speak English. It would be similar to owning a national league side in that way.

The talent is there - Gaelic football is not a meaningful competitor as you simply cannot make the same sort of living in GAA. The grassroots needs extra funding in Ireland but that could begin with a new CFG club. Also, Gaelic games are less easy to just play with your mates in a park.
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Fair few of those players were raised in the UK.
 
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tommy116 said:
Few if any Irish clubs are interested in this model, they favour the fan ownership model and would run far from this, Shelbourne FC are now controlled by the Hull owners but that will be very much the exception. The league itself is growing quickly, attendances are up massively and many grounds are sold out. Teams have very good youth set ups and connections to local youth teams. Issue though is keeping the talented youth as many get taken by foreign clubs. My local team has lost in the past couple of weeks players to Serie A and La Liga clubs. Funding is of course an issue as its crazy the money gaa and the racing industry gets compared to football but that will change and the sooner the better.
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It will change, we’re getting our act together under age. Rovers u/14 academy are beating the English academies regularly.
The underage league of Ireland is a great idea. The top players at rovers would be championship level on their day which is decent.
It’s way ahead of the league up the north.
Most kids play GAA and football, its not an either or choice.
 
Spurs quarter 69 said:
Delighted the Dubs won the all Ireland, can see no contradiction in following The Dubs and Bohs, anymore than following City and Lancy cricket.
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Rovers v Bohs games are class, looking forward to when Dalyer gets re-vamped and we get more tickets to Lord it over your lot !
 
Xhavenjoe said:
No , quite the opposite.
Replying to posters saying that Aidan McGeady and Terry Phelan aren't irish.
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I mentioned Phelan and didn’t say he wasn’t Irish or shouldn’t have played for Ireland. In fact he is one of a very small group of English born Irish players who would have had a realistic chance of playing for England if he’d chosen them.

Unlike some Englishmen who just used Ireland as a way of getting a game at international level, Phelan was always very proud of his Irish roots and never showed any interest in representing anyone else from Under 21s through to the first team.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
And where’s Johnny Giles and Liam Brady. David O’Leary? Steve Highway?
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It was Steve Heighway. I as at school with him in Cheadle back in the day.

We could also add Johnny Crossan,Tony Dunne, Frank Stapleton, Johnny Carey, Norman Whiteside, Kevin Moran, Martin O'Neill, Paddy Fegan, Neil Lennon, Jason McAteer, Ronnie Whelan, Sammy McIlroy, Steve Finnan, and Phil Babb.

A few were world class players, most were solid journeymen.
 
Stephen230 said:
I mentioned Phelan and didn’t say he wasn’t Irish or shouldn’t have played for Ireland. In fact he is one of a very small group of English born Irish players who would have had a realistic chance of playing for England if he’d chosen them.

Unlike some Englishmen who just used Ireland as a way of getting a game at international level, Phelan was always very proud of his Irish roots and never showed any interest in representing anyone else from Under 21s through to the first team.
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England are the worst team for this, in particular Matt Le Tissier, who said no one should play for England who isn't English, yet he did himself without being English.

Just hold a mirror up.
 
The whole rules in sport re: eligibility based on nationality are crazy.
I recall watching 2 brothers running against each other in the Olympics, one for Qatar and the other for Kenya. The Qatari runner had no association to them.
Jorginho playing for Italy in football, Eoin Morgan playing cricket for England, Zola Budd, Greg Rusedski, countless numbers of rugby players in the current world cup for several countries.
Going back 1 generation should be enough, so the country where the person was born or the birth place of their parents.
There will be exceptions to this but getting to play for a country based on marriage etc. Should be ruled out.
Laporte should not be playing for Spain but I would make an exception in the case of Sterling who came to England at a very young age and has spent most of his life here.
 
Xhavenjoe said:
The whole rules in sport re: eligibility based on nationality are crazy.
I recall watching 2 brothers running against each other in the Olympics, one for Qatar and the other for Kenya. The Qatari runner had no association to them.
Jorginho playing for Italy in football, Eoin Morgan playing cricket for England, Zola Budd, Greg Rusedski, countless numbers of rugby players in the current world cup for several countries.
Going back 1 generation should be enough, so the country where the person was born or the birth place of their parents.
There will be exceptions to this but getting to play for a country based on marriage etc. Should be ruled out.
Laporte should not be playing for Spain but I would make an exception in the case of Sterling who came to England at a very young age and has spent most of his life here.
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Or easier still. Scrap internationals completely.
 
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