Time to ban horse racing (jumps)

chrismcfcturner said:
lets ban boxing,motor racing,football and other sports where PEOPLE have died,cos of do gooders why tackling is being phased out in football!! lets all stay indoors and live in plastic bubbles so everyone will be ok !!! just to be on the safe side!!!!
"do gooders" used in the pejorative always makes me laugh.

You're right ofcourse, one should always try and do more bad.
 
markbmcfc said:
ban-mcfc said:
markbmcfc said:
Out of interest.....what are the trainers/jockeys/stable staff/tipsters/media columnists/presenters and the thousands and thousands of other people employed because of horse racing supposed to do for a job?

i don't know get another job like everyone else has to when they get laid off maybe?

understand the point of "they were bred to race" etc but the horses don't really get a say do they?

anyway i no longer wish to go on with this subject so have a nice day :)

Not really the point that is it. The fact is thousands have lost their jobs and source of income in their only specialist area. They'd need a completely different career path and often people just can't adapt. Should they have to restudy for a new career?

From an equestrian perspective, horses enjoy racing. They enjoy training and those that don't are usually sold off to become pets. Yes, accidents happen and they die. Its horrible, but shit happens. Don't be under an illusion that horses are forced to race, they are there by choice, indirectly.

Horse stables are full of horse lovers, working with them every single day to train. Most of them are not gamblers and hate everything gambling stands for, they are there purely because of their love of horses. If there was even the slightest bit of cruelty involved in racing, do you think they would continue to be involved?

Horse racing makes a lot of people happy, and more horses walk the planet because of it. When bad things happen, it's the dark side of the sport and nobody wants to see it happen, but shit does happen unfortunately.

So how would the above be affected if just the fences were banned?
 
chrismcfcturner said:
lets ban boxing,motor racing,football and other sports where PEOPLE have died,cos of do gooders why tackling is being phased out in football!! lets all stay indoors and live in plastic bubbles so everyone will be ok !!! just to be on the safe side!!!!

Can you explain how "doing good" is a bad thing?

Your argument, bringing in tackling, is irrelevant, and the rest of your post makes no sense

EDIT: just noticed SWP's back just highlighted the same point
 
chrismcfcturner said:
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
chrismcfcturner said:
lets ban boxing,motor racing,football and other sports where PEOPLE have died,cos of do gooders why tackling is being phased out in football!! lets all stay indoors and live in plastic bubbles so everyone will be ok !!! just to be on the safe side!!!!

If 2 blokes want to go into a boxing ring and smack the living daylights out of each other, good luck to them. It's called choice. As is getting in a racing acar and driving at 200 miles per hour.

Where is the horses choice in being flogged around Aintree and forced to jump Beachers Brook hemmed in between 10 other horses at the same time? If the horse refuses to jump at the last minute, it can take a handful with it to the glue factory.
are u a vegetarian ??

Yes, because he told me to be one
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chris_m said:
chrismcfcturner said:
lets ban boxing,motor racing,football and other sports where PEOPLE have died,cos of do gooders why tackling is being phased out in football!! lets all stay indoors and live in plastic bubbles so everyone will be ok !!! just to be on the safe side!!!!

Can you explain how "doing good" is a bad thing?

Your argument, bringing in tackling, is irrelevant, and the rest of your post makes no sense

"doing good" is a very subjective thing mate. ask the taliban!! - or the yanks for that matter!!!
 
In fairness these horses have the best life a horse can have. They love all the running about and stuff. Its a shame they die but the old choice was being flogged to death on a farm or made to chase after foxes where the same dangers or even more really in uneven fields befell these magnificent creatures.
I know its dangerous and horses do die but alot more would be destroyed as there would be no use without this sport
 
burning blue soul said:
chris_m said:
chrismcfcturner said:
lets ban boxing,motor racing,football and other sports where PEOPLE have died,cos of do gooders why tackling is being phased out in football!! lets all stay indoors and live in plastic bubbles so everyone will be ok !!! just to be on the safe side!!!!

Can you explain how "doing good" is a bad thing?

Your argument, bringing in tackling, is irrelevant, and the rest of your post makes no sense

"doing good" is a very subjective thing mate. ask the taliban!! - or the yanks for that matter!!!

Would you accuse the Taliban of being do-gooders though?
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
markbmcfc said:
ban-mcfc said:
ban it, how can you justify a horses life by fucking betting?
Out of interest.....what are the trainers/jockeys/stable staff/tipsters/media columnists/presenters and the thousands and thousands of other people employed because of horse racing supposed to do for a job?

As mentioned, I simply said ban the jumps.
But..... by your theory, governments should always go to war because it keeps the soldiers, weapons manufacturers. journalists, doctors and nurses etc etc in employment.....

Well, economic turmoil has often been used as a reason for a war so it's not a theory.
Building weapons creates jobs, using them creates more.
 
I'm no horseracing expert, just don't follow the sport, always seemed to be too upperclass for me.

Anyway, if you like watching the sport, would you still watch it if the courses were made safer for the Horse? as in no fences.... ?
 

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