Time wasting

[khoitnm]

I’d suggest we do ‘game management’ more. As per Saturday we take short corners and seek to win 3/4/5 in quick succession. We don’t actually take a huge amount of time to restart each.

That was an excellent article, this bit made me angry;

You genuinely would have had enough time to put the kettle on while watching Everton taking throw-ins against Manchester City on New Year’s Eve. The Toffees took an incredible 51 seconds per throw in their 1-1 draw against Pep Guardiola’s side.

Let’s smash these cheating pricks next week.

Yeah, in general, I do agree with what you said.

However, my complain is not on the team who do time wasting, my complain is on the rule and refs. If we think about it: we and many other teams do many things to slow down the games when leading the scoreline.
For example, we try to take 30 seconds for a throw in, but Toffees take 50 seconds, but why we complain about Toffees while happy to see us doing that? Why's that? Then the question is what's the acceptable level? what's the limit? That's on rules and refs have to enforce the rule.

If Toffees take 50 seconds and the refs still won't do anything, they will implicitly think "ah, it's OK, just repeating doing that", then if I'm Toffees, I'll just do that to make sure my team get some points. If the rule don't say anything, the rule suck. If the rule says 30 seconds, but ref still allow 50 seconds, refs suck.

In this case, I think the rule suck (or to be precise: the persons who made rules are suck) and refs are suck because they let these things happened.

 

[Scottish Cityzen]

Yeah, in general, I do agree with what you said.

However, my complain is not on the team who do time wasting, my complain is on the rule and refs. If we think about it: we and many other teams do many things to slow down the games when leading the scoreline.
For example, we try to take 30 seconds for a throw in, but Toffees take 50 seconds, but why we complain about Toffees while happy to see us doing that? Why's that? Then the question is what's the acceptable level? what's the limit? That's on rules and refs have to enforce the rule.

If Toffees take 50 seconds and the refs still won't do anything, they will implicitly think "ah, it's OK, just repeating doing that", then if I'm Toffees, I'll just do that to make sure my team get some points. If the rule don't say anything, the rule suck. If the rule says 30 seconds, but ref still allow 50 seconds, refs suck.

In this case, I think the rule suck (or to be precise: the persons who made rules are suck) and refs are suck because they let these things happened.

They keep tweaking some rules and ignore rules that are no longer ‘fashionable’ or enforced.

A pet hate of mine which has got steadily worse is the distance stolen on throw-ins, not an exaggeration to suggest 15-20 yards can be taken with impunity now.

Time a goalkeeper holds onto the ball another.

Totally agree that it’s on the officials (and governing bodies) to set the tone.

This year’s ‘fashion’ is letting more contact go. Next season they will fuck about with something else.

It’s negligent to let the best league in the world be run in this manner.

 

[threadkiller]

Yep,them those attacking trams can really go off the rails at times!

Fuuuuuuuuck

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Great article.

The Definitive Guide to Premier League Time-Wasting | Opta Analyst

To the losing team, it’s time-wasting. To those leading, it’s game management. But there's one thing that's not in doubt: it's getting worse.

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I think there should be a minimum of 60 minutes played.

If there hasn’t been 60 minutes BIP, then the game doesn’t end until there has been, with an independent timekeeper on the clock.

Fucking sick to death of being robbed of so much football by all these cheats.



This stats from about Spurs down are a disgrace!

Stop stopping play for injuries other than head injuries. Green cards should be introduced for players going down and needing play to be stopped for a head injury assessment off the pitch. Any goalkeeper going down and needing treatment should be substituted.

Introduce a stop clock for set pieces. You have 15 seconds to take a set piece and if the hooter sounds the opposition get the ball.

 

[bluenova]

I’d suggest we do ‘game management’ more. As per Saturday we take short corners and seek to win 3/4/5 in quick succession. We don’t actually take a huge amount of time to restart each.

That was an excellent article, this bit made me angry;

You genuinely would have had enough time to put the kettle on while watching Everton taking throw-ins against Manchester City on New Year’s Eve. The Toffees took an incredible 51 seconds per throw in their 1-1 draw against Pep Guardiola’s side.

Let’s smash these cheating pricks next week.

When their average is 16 seconds, they took an EXTRA 6 minutes more than usual on just 11 throws.

Just on throw-ins!

 

[halfcenturyup]

Great article.

The Definitive Guide to Premier League Time-Wasting | Opta Analyst

To the losing team, it’s time-wasting. To those leading, it’s game management. But there's one thing that's not in doubt: it's getting worse.

theanalyst.com

It's a good article no doubt, but Collina fucking hell. "A celebration normally takes a minute, a minute and a half, so with three goals scored you lose five or six minutes." With accuracy like that I am not surprised timekeeping is a mess.

On a separate but not unrelated point, I blame this guy for much of the VAR nonsense. You put referees in charge of laws of the game and how they are applied, this is what happens.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I think there should be a minimum of 60 minutes played.

If there hasn’t been 60 minutes BIP, then the game doesn’t end until there has been, with an independent timekeeper on the clock.

Fucking sick to death of being robbed of so much football by all these cheats.

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This stats from about Spurs down are a disgrace!

Stop stopping play for injuries other than head injuries. Green cards should be introduced for players going down and needing play to be stopped for a head injury assessment off the pitch. Any goalkeeper going down and needing treatment should be substituted.

Introduce a stop clock for set pieces. You have 15 seconds to take a set piece and if the hooter sounds the opposition get the ball.

Not sure I like the idea of a hooter but I like a stopclock even less. Americanisation :(

What about this? Independent timekeeper allows 15 seconds for a throw-in, 20 seconds for goal-kick, 10 seconds for a free-kick and so on, any time over that gets added to a clock that everyone can see. At the end of the half, that much additional time gets played.

Or what about this radical idea? Referees just do their bloody job properly.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

I’d suggest we do ‘game management’ more. As per Saturday we take short corners and seek to win 3/4/5 in quick succession. We don’t actually take a huge amount of time to restart each.

That was an excellent article, this bit made me angry;

You genuinely would have had enough time to put the kettle on while watching Everton taking throw-ins against Manchester City on New Year’s Eve. The Toffees took an incredible 51 seconds per throw in their 1-1 draw against Pep Guardiola’s side.

Let’s smash these cheating pricks next week.

Or just go 1 up and take 51 seconds to take a throw in

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Yeah, in general, I do agree with what you said.

However, my complain is not on the team who do time wasting, my complain is on the rule and refs. If we think about it: we and many other teams do many things to slow down the games when leading the scoreline.
For example, we try to take 30 seconds for a throw in, but Toffees take 50 seconds, but why we complain about Toffees while happy to see us doing that? Why's that? Then the question is what's the acceptable level? what's the limit? That's on rules and refs have to enforce the rule.

If Toffees take 50 seconds and the refs still won't do anything, they will implicitly think "ah, it's OK, just repeating doing that", then if I'm Toffees, I'll just do that to make sure my team get some points. If the rule don't say anything, the rule suck. If the rule says 30 seconds, but ref still allow 50 seconds, refs suck.

In this case, I think the rule suck (or to be precise: the persons who made rules are suck) and refs are suck because they let these things happened.

The thing is Everton do it from the first minute. City don't

 

[I'm With Stupid]

It's not the time wasting that irritates me as much as the (as always) inconsistent application of the rules. A team spends the entire game time wasting against us to keep it to 0-0. We score in the 87th minute and engage in a bit of time wasting ourselves to keep our 1-0 lead, and we the referee can't get his yellow card out fast enough. Let's be honest, you probably notice it more when we do it, but that's not an excuse.

Having said that, the number of yellow cards for time wasting is at an all-time high and it's still happening. You have to question what other factors are in play. While some time wasting is clearly tactical, how often is it just a break to allow players to catch their breath? They keep piling more and more games on players, no more than this season with a ridiculous World Cup in the middle, and then expect the same levels of performance.