Today's shooting in America thread

Sid C said:
Read it after i posted lol
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No worries.

Apparently there is only one piece of this gun that is considered a firearm for the purpose of a mail-order ban. Which means potential shooters can build their guns with relative ease.

Under U.S. law, the only part of a gun that's technically considered a firearm — and must be shipped to a licensed firearms dealer — is the lower receiver. That's the shell-like piece that houses the trigger and bears the maker's serial number. Everything else, from the barrel to the firing mechanism, can be easily bought directly — online or in a store.

"This is a perfect example of how our federal gun laws now have been so convoluted and weakened that we can't determine basic components and what's what in firearms anymore," said Vince, who is also a criminal justice professor at Mount St. Mary's University in Maryland.

The gun used in Dayton had an AR-15-style lower receiver that was built by Anderson Manufacturing in Hebron, Ky. This week, such receivers were priced at $40.
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"On August 4, 2019, 24-year-old Connor Betts shot and killed nine people, including his sister, and injured 17 others"

www.npr.org

The Pistol That Looks Like A Rifle: The Dayton Shooter's Gun

The gun used in Dayton has the same core component as an AR-15-style rifle. It also has a 100-bullet magazine. But it's legally considered a pistol.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

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2019 Dayton shooting - Wikipedia

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It’s absurd that that this mass killing machine with a double drum magazine is legally considered a pistol.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
No worries.

Apparently there is only one piece of this gun that is considered a firearm for the purpose of a mail-order ban. Which means potential shooters can build their guns with relative ease.




gun-composite_custom-06f5cbe956752eb74a4440dc34cfe8b859602cd8-s900-c85.webp


"On August 4, 2019, 24-year-old Connor Betts shot and killed nine people, including his sister, and injured 17 others"

www.npr.org

The Pistol That Looks Like A Rifle: The Dayton Shooter's Gun

The gun used in Dayton has the same core component as an AR-15-style rifle. It also has a 100-bullet magazine. But it's legally considered a pistol.
www.npr.org www.npr.org

en.m.wikipedia.org

2019 Dayton shooting - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org

It’s absurd that that this mass killing machine with a double drum magazine is legally considered a pistol.
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As I said other countries laws are of little concern to me as I can do nothing about them and don’t have to live with them. That said, if I visit another country with laws/rules I’m uncomfortable with I’ll abide by them and probably have little comment about them as I know I truly don’t know their culture. That’s not sitting on the fence, it’s the way I feel.

Your above post has really surprised me though and I’m so grateful our gun laws are far tighter.
 
Sid C said:
As I said other countries laws are of little concern to me as I can do nothing about them and don’t have to live with them. That said, if I visit another country with laws/rules I’m uncomfortable with I’ll abide by them and probably have little comment about them as I know I truly don’t know their culture. That’s not sitting on the fence, it’s the way I feel.

Your above post has really surprised me though and I’m so grateful our gun laws are far tighter.
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I don't really think it is an issue of culture, not as much as made out. Most of the pushbacks to gun control came in the last 30 - 40 years.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
2 qs for you: Do you think Kyle Rittenhouse is a responsible gun user or an irresponsible gun user? I don’t know all the facts in that case — did he break a law or not? — but what’s your perspective?

And if I see a non-uniformed person standing in the street holding a gun in a circumstance in which it is legal, how am I to know if he is a responsible user or an irresponsible user? How do you tell?
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A) You can’t count! :-)

1) I think he was irresponsible traveling across state lines to act as a “volunteer security guard” with an AR, but it was legal in an open carry state.

2) A jury of his peers said he did not break the laws he was accused of breaking.

3) Without hearing every piece of evidence, or having the relevant statutes in front of me, I thought he did.

4) User or owner?
User…does he only use the weapon to protect himself from fear of death or serious injury?
Owner…does he secure his weapon at home, such that it cannot fall into the hands of others?

5) Self evident, but you will only know in retrospect, just like the person driving along I-5 at 80mph alongside you, or any street in America in the opposite direction.
As a society, we give great trust to others to do the right thing by us…even walking down the street.

One punch knockout, anyone?
 
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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
More about the shooting
www.dailymail.co.uk

'Weak better buckle up': Denver gunman's alt-right male supremacy idea

Lyndon McLeod, 47, shot and killed five people in Denver on Monday - several of them connected to the tattoo industry. In his self-published book he wrote about gunning down people at a tattoo parlor.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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I never trust these stories. Journalists comb through years of social media and attempt to present a caricature of a person that fits neatly into a box that people can outrage at. With modern social media, you can pretty much make somebody look however you want.
 
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