Grassland Blue
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You're probably correct, sadly.
More of the things that caused the problem in the first place.
Today's shooting in America thread
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More of the things that caused the problem in the first place.
Fuck this world
The time to do something was the first mass shooting. Australia had a mass shooting in Port Arthur and they said never again and cracked down on it. The UK had the Dunblane massacre and they said never again and cracked down on handgun ownership. The US has had countless and they decide an ancient piece of paper is worth more than their own citizens lives, their own fucking children.
The decision was made and you can’t put that genie back in its bottle. This will never stop over there. I couldn’t even imagine sending your kid to school and having to worry you’ll never see them again.
The decision was made and you can’t put that genie back in its bottle. This will never stop over there. I couldn’t even imagine sending your kid to school and having to worry you’ll never see them again.
BlueMoonAcrossThePond
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Hey, well at least the NRA has "thoughts and prayers" for the deceased... Goddamn bastards.
jimharri
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15 Dead in Texas School Shooting.
The world has gone nuts! Get ready for more Federal gun regulations. RIP to ALL victims of this tragic cowardly act.…… Thankfully the POS shoot is dead.
www.yellowbullet.com
That forum is redneck central. You should see it when a black person is shot dead by police.
Im all for liberty but confiscating guns in the UK and Aus couldn’t have been clearer as a good decision. We still have violent crime, murders and the odd terror attack but it would be much much worse if you gave the population guns. My grandson can go to school without any of us having to worry about him being murdered.
I wish you all the luck in the states with sorting this shit out, dead kids is about as bad as it gets.
Trevor Morley's Tache
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At least read what I posted. You said '50% show zero signs at all' and i was pointing out that the graph actually shows 17 out of 127 had 'No signs of mental health issues'. 48 out of 127 were undetermined.
The Buffalo shooter made a threat which was investigated by police. That should have been an instant red flag as to the suitability of the individual to legally purchase a firearm, whether or not it was elevated as a mental health issues.
This is really simple. Either you've got prior signs of mental health issues, or you don't.
50% of the 127 did.
Trevor Morley's Tache
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I can't remember who it was who said 'arm the teachers', but that's possibly the dumbest take on school shootings.
In every subsequent school shooting the teacher will be the first one shot.
Arming teachers may lead to shooting events being ended sooner because a teacher from another classroom is able to stop the shooter, but not before a classroom full of kids plus their armed teacher are already dead.
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Let's be honest, if the US was on another continent - say Africa or Asia - people in the West would see it as a totally 'backward' country full stop, between the endemic gun violence, apartheid/racism, domestic terrorism, wars, mass incarceration, death penalty, abortion debate, influence of fundamentalists, inequality and generally poor standard of policing. It's only because of bias and how good the US is at mythologizing itself that it's judged much more kindly.
This latest shooting will most likely see gun sales go up, between people who think the answer to bad guys with guns is more good guys with guns, and those who want to stock up in case the government cracks down. I think we will see a second US civil war before the gun nuts will give them up. And I say this as someone who has been to the US a good few times, has seen the good in it and has relatives who migrated there years ago.