Today's shooting in America thread

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

2a was written in 1791. At that point the US army was only a few years old but a growing power. It was not evenly distributed and was controlled by Washington. The 2a was clearly intended to allow individual states to form their own local military force in the event the federal government went rogue but also the fight with the British was rumbling on. It was basically a state level security policy relevant to the insecurity of that pre civil war era.

Yup.

A lot of people making serious money selling guns off the back of an antiquated law though.

 

[Grassland Blue]

Keep the guns restrict the ammo.
Size and quantity.
(Works in Switzerland)

 

[Gremlin]

Another one, 7 dead and the police saying 'disgruntled worker' rather than any kind of retaliation.

Not sure how America fixes this. Heavier laws on gun sales and ownership could cause a civil war based on some of the attitudes I've seen in some areas, but surely Biden has a duty to the American people and I think on the back of a tragedy is the only way it will happen.

BBC News - Half Moon Bay: Seven dead in second California shooting in days

Half Moon Bay: Seven dead in another California mass shooting

A suspect is held after farm workers are shot dead, two days after a gunman took 11 lives at a dancing club.

www.bbc.co.uk

We went to Half Moon Bay a couple of years ago when doing a tour of California on holiday. Just a lunch stop as it was a really quiet place and probably the last place you'd think there would be a mass shooting.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Yet another today. I wonder if it's time for America to consider that aside from failed states and those actually at war / civil war their record on mass shootings suggests the 2nd amendment may need a few tweaks?

 

[Gray]

The wild west

Tomstone Arizona - present day.

 

[Gray]

Yet another today. I wonder if it's time for America to consider that aside from failed states and those actually at war / civil war their record on mass shootings suggests the 2nd amendment may need a few tweaks?

So they no longer need "A well regulated Militia"?

 

[Centurions]

What constitutes a mass shooting? More than 2?

It depends on who you ask but it seems that 4 or more injured (not necessarily dead) excluding the shooter, is the accepted norm (if that's the right word to use).

641 mass shootings last year (648 perhaps?), 21 of which included 5 or more fatalities.

I'm not sure if this has been linked before but it's a damning story:-

US gun violence: Two weeks of shootings data around the Uvalde attack shows the scale of the issue

US gun violence: Two weeks of shootings data around the Uvalde attack shows the scale of the issue

news.sky.com

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

2a was written in 1791. At that point the US army was only a few years old but a growing power. It was not evenly distributed and was controlled by Washington. The 2a was clearly intended to allow individual states to form their own local military force in the event the federal government went rogue but also the fight with the British was rumbling on. It was basically a state level security policy relevant to the insecurity of that pre civil war era.

And assault riffles weren't around back then.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

May as well be a sticky this thread as it is near the top of the page most days

If only the OP's of each thread got paid for each click and reply..... I'd be retiring on the back of this thread

Mind you - @Bill Walker would be posting 10 new threads a day!

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Yet another today. I wonder if it's time for America to consider that aside from failed states and those actually at war / civil war their record on mass shootings suggests the 2nd amendment may need a few tweaks?

What makes you think that this shooting is the one that will tip the discussion into making a change?
The NRA are like Liverpool fans. It's never their members fault.