Today's shooting in America thread

[East Level 2]

It would hardly be a knee jerk reaction surely as this has been happening for decades?

True, but there only seems a demand for legislation in the immediate aftermath of each tragedy. Then it all goes quiet.

 

[JASR]

I’m not sure that’s strictly correct. It’s not just those who are directly affected by these shootings. It must affect everyone in US society. It must be awful to live in a society where that regularly happens and your kids go to school. Imagine the constant worry.

Indeed.

Having regular school drills for ‘active shooters’, having classrooms that are lockable/barricadable from the inside (hmm), having bulletproof whiteboards, having new schools designed with angled short corridors (restrict line of fire), metal detectors and pat downs to enter school perimeter, armed security on entrances, school bags made of Kevlar…
Just off the top of my head.

And all because 2A is allowed to be sacrosanct and anything that is deemed to be an attack on that right is hounded out.

I’d say the US is killing off the freedom of their children, and causing ongoing anxiety and raised mental problems, turning schools into siege survivable buildings…it must chip away everyday you have to walk into school and see all that.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Indeed.

Having regular school drills for ‘active shooters’, having classrooms that are lockable/barricadable from the inside (hmm), having bulletproof whiteboards, having new schools designed with angled short corridors (restrict line of fire), metal detectors and pat downs to enter school perimeter, armed security on entrances, school bags made of Kevlar…
Just off the top of my head.

And all because 2A is allowed to be sacrosanct and anything that is deemed to be an attack on that right is hounded out.

I’d say the US is killing off the freedom of their children, and causing ongoing anxiety and raised mental problems, turning schools into siege survivable buildings…it must chip away everyday you have to walk into school and see all that.

Reading all that, it’s actually insane.

 

[Grassland Blue]

Indeed.

Having regular school drills for ‘active shooters’, having classrooms that are lockable/barricadable from the inside (hmm), having bulletproof whiteboards, having new schools designed with angled short corridors (restrict line of fire), metal detectors and pat downs to enter school perimeter, armed security on entrances, school bags made of Kevlar…
Just off the top of my head.

And all because 2A is allowed to be sacrosanct and anything that is deemed to be an attack on that right is hounded out.

I’d say the US is killing off the freedom of their children, and causing ongoing anxiety and raised mental problems, turning schools into siege survivable buildings…it must chip away everyday you have to walk into school and see all that.

Hopefully the children will one day reach the conclusion that things needn't be like that and make changes.
Imagine living in fear your whole life.
Sod that.

 

[Blue and true]

It's a shame a good chunk of those that inhabit the Land of the Free are still resistant to change. Many (admittedly ultra-conservative) are now positing mental health and poor social mobility as the root causes of these atrocities; it's akin to saying fog sunk the Titanic, not the big fuck off iceberg planted in the Atlantic.

I'm yet to hear a single rational argument for opposing Second Amendment reform.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Sorted out my outfit for visiting America

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You wouldn’t be carrying enough weapons.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Some of you have asked about how Americans feel about all this. I guess the answer is that you just try to get on with your lives. I live in a liberal place with a lot more restrictions on gun acquisition. I’ve never owned one but I have several friends who do. I have two kids — one in college and one who graduates high school next year. I try not to worry about this stuff but it’s always been in the back of my mind in terms of my kids’ safety. On this thread before I talked about trying to get those who claim they are rational, law-abiding gunowners to voluntarily part with them for the betterment of society. The two posters here who are gun owners have no interest in that, which means the problem will always perpetuate, because it’s a Pandora’s box — once out and circulating, getting the guns back is an effective impossibility. The NRA is a terrorist organiz(s)ation. Gun makers are tobacco companies morally. Legislators are hamstrung — especially conservatives, formerly law-and-order types who used support much more stringent measures to control weapons and are now beholden to lobbyists making the “freedom” argument, who can’t even restrict more war-like weaponry due to the “slippery slope” argument. It’s effectively hopeless. It’s unsolvable in my lifetime.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Been to an America a number of times and loved every second. Have visited over half the individual States and loved something in every single one. Except Florida.

Ha ha
Tell me.more, tell me.more....

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Ha ha
Tell me.more, tell me.more....

It’s quite straightforward actually! I was in Alabama and went to Florabama for a night out so I only just set foot in the State!

It’s on the list, but the only State I never visited properly.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Ha ha
Tell me.more, tell me.more....

I have been to 47 states. Only missing the two Dakotas and West Virginia. Florida is, IMO, far and away the most overrated state in America. It’s hot, it’s flat (which is what I dislike most), it’s by and large a cultural wasteland, it’s full of fucking alligators and snakes, there are inbred hicks everywhere, and you have to board up your windows at least once a year. That said, the beaches are lovely, there are parts of Miami that are a lot of fun and it can be very affordable compared to the northeast and Pacific coasts.