Today's shooting in America thread

[ChicagoBlue]

Thanks , I do get the constitutional, historical and cultural context of what your saying.
Having said that a lot of it comes down to a constitution written 235 years ago which is , imho , no longer fit for purpose, but which also has little or no chance of being amended any time soon due to vested interests and the complete polorization of political debate in both houses.

Got it in one! ;-)

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Mass shootings have happened in a bar, cinema, yoga class, elementary school, high school, university campus, baseball practice, church, a concert, a gaming competition, outdoor mall, neighbourhood party, bank, supermarket, library, newsroom, nightclub, synagogue, dance studio....

"It's all right lads, we'll just avoid the places with gun crime, you've just got to know where to go."

The idea that as an individual you do not fear gun crime therefore it isn't a problem is about as myopic as it gets. The point of this thread is not to sneer at America but to surely create debate around the astounding stupidity of allowing citizens to own weapons designed solely to kill. It's fucking bonkers. And the increasing normalisation of it is equally bonkers.

I'm not in the "UK is less violent than US" camp by the way.

I am in the "WTF are you doing to stop children being gunned down in class" camp. And if the answer boils down to fuck all, then you're doing something wrong.

You’re lucky you don’t live here, lest you walk around shaking like a leaf everywhere you go.

However, we would obviously all be the better for it, because you’d be in the “WTF are we going to do to stop children being gunned down in class?” camp…in which almost everyone you’ll ever meet in your life resides.

I see the short bus dropped off at Bluemoon tonight!!

What’s fucking bonkers is thinking the Bluemoon Think Tank was going to solve America’s gun problem on page 494 of the thread!

 

[madloaf]

You’re lucky you don’t live here, lest you walk around shaking like a leaf everywhere you go.

However, we would obviously all be the better for it, because you’d be in the “WTF are we going to do to stop children being gunned down in class?” camp…in which almost everyone you’ll ever meet in your life resides.

I see the short bus dropped off at Bluemoon tonight!!

That was a quick survey you did of everyone in America. Good job by you buddy.

 

[madloaf]

You’re lucky you don’t live here, lest you walk around shaking like a leaf everywhere you go.

However, we would obviously all be the better for it, because you’d be in the “WTF are we going to do to stop children being gunned down in class?” camp…in which almost everyone you’ll ever meet in your life resides.

I see the short bus dropped off at Bluemoon tonight!!

What’s fucking bonkers is thinking the Bluemoon Think Tank was going to solve America’s gun problem on page 494 of the thread!

Lol. No one is trying to solve the problem you silly man.

Honest to fucking god so fucking precious. Recent research showing how fucking no one cares about gun violence because you said so.

• 85% believe gun violence is a problem in America (vs. 78% in 2021)
• More than one-third believe it is likely they will encounter an active shooter in their lifetime (vs. 28% in 2021)
• Nearly 3 in 10 Americans have thought about moving [from their current home/location] out of fear of gun violence (vs. 12% in 2021)

There's more, but who cares, eh, you don't think it's a problem. So it's not a problem.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

That was a quick survey you did of everyone in America. Good job by you buddy.

Do you think Americans are four square in favor of killing kids in school???

And yet WE are the crazy ones?! Got it!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Lol. No one is trying to solve the problem you silly man.

Honest to fucking god so fucking precious. Recent research showing how fucking no one cares about gun violence because you said so.

• 85% believe gun violence is a problem in America (vs. 78% in 2021)
• More than one-third believe it is likely they will encounter an active shooter in their lifetime (vs. 28% in 2021)
• Nearly 3 in 10 Americans have thought about moving [from their current home/location] out of fear of gun violence (vs. 12% in 2021)

There's more, but who cares, eh, you don't think it's a problem. So it's not a problem.

Who said no-one cares or that it’s not a problem?

WTF is wrong with you?

Have I stepped into the fucking Twilight Zone?

 

[JASR]

I am in the "WTF are you doing to stop children being gunned down in class" camp. And if the answer boils down to fuck all, then you're doing something wrong.

Well there’s not quite fuck all being done in schools, there’s:
Lockdown training
Entrance Metal detectors
Lockable from inside classrooms
Bulletproof doors
Bulletproof movable blackboards
Kevlar backpacks
Patrolling armed guards
Redesigned nonstraight corridors
Regular active shooter drills
Open and hidden carry teachers
Isolating buildings doors

… surely that’s going to fix the problems of all school shootings…what other possible way of stopping them exists…

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Well there’s not quite fuck all being done in schools, there’s:
Lockdown training
Entrance Metal detectors
Lockable from inside classrooms
Bulletproof doors
Bulletproof movable blackboards
Kevlar backpacks
Patrolling armed guards
Redesigned nonstraight corridors
Regular active shooter drills
Open and hidden carry teachers
Isolating buildings doors

… surely that’s going to fix the problems of all school shootings…what other possible way of stopping them exists…

What would that be, and tell us all how you’d accomplish it. PLEASE! Americans are just too stupid to figure it out, but I just know all the super smart Bluemooners in Jolly Old have the answer.

Please share the wisdom and then it’ll happen, right?

It’s like banging my head against the fucking wall!!!

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Well there’s not quite fuck all being done in schools, there’s:
Lockdown training
Entrance Metal detectors
Lockable from inside classrooms
Bulletproof doors
Bulletproof movable blackboards
Kevlar backpacks
Patrolling armed guards
Redesigned nonstraight corridors
Regular active shooter drills
Open and hidden carry teachers
Isolating buildings doors

… surely that’s going to fix the problems of all school shootings…what other possible way of stopping them exists…

Arm the students, canteen staff, cleaners and caretakers?

 

[madloaf]

What would that be, and tell us all how you’d accomplish it. PLEASE! Americans are just too stupid to figure it out, but I just know all the super smart Bluemooners in Jolly Old have the answer.

Please share the wisdom and then it’ll happen, right?

It’s like banging my head against the fucking wall!!!

Ah well.
Thank god this bloody winter break is nearly over! I prefer us all agreeing ;)