Today's shooting in America thread

So will you never go to Southend from now on seeing as an MP was murdered there a few weeks ago?

Just spent the weekend in New York. A great weekend. Was on the ferry to/ from Staten Island at 10.30pm and on the subway from 11.30 to midnight from the ferry terminal through to Queens.
Not a hint of anyone out there looking for trouble.
On my trips back home I am nervous walking through town in the afternoons never mind once it gets dark.....

Can't get away from the fact the states is more dangerous than the UK, not enough to put me off but can see why others would be.

STATUnited KingdomUnited StatesHISTORY
Intentional homicide rate1.17
Ranked 74th.
4.7
Ranked 7th. 4 times more than United Kingdom
Murder rate722
Ranked 34th.
12,996
Ranked 9th. 18 times more than United Kingdom
Murder rate per million people11.68
Ranked 94th.
42.01
Ranked 43th. 4 times more than United Kingdom
Murders722
Ranked 34th.
12,996
Ranked 9th. 18 times more than United Kingdom
Murders per million people11.68
Ranked 94th.
42.01
Ranked 43th. 4 times more than United Kingdom
 
Meanwhile today brings us more idiocy from across the pond.

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This is not 'idiocy'.

The trend was always going to happen because stupid laws benefitted one side and now all sides want the same protection.
 
This is not 'idiocy'.

The trend was always going to happen because stupid laws benefitted one side and now all sides want the same protection.

Is the point to expose the hypocrisy by "inviting" law enforcement to arrest them and seize their guns when they would have escaped scrutiny if they were white?
 
The 2nd Amendment of The US Constitution is -
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
It makes no mention of race,religion or creed of the people.
That is the second half of the sentence.
It says :

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

"Well regulated" would be something.

It also predates the abolition of slavery by 74 years, (13th Amendment) so I reckon most slaves probably weren't carrying rifles or it might have ended a bit earlier.
 
It is idiocy tho.
On both sides.
I'm not saying they are wrong, people of differing opinions are turning up armed to the teeth so it would be wise to tool up too.
If this becomes the norm the next time there are riots in the US, it will be absolute carnage.
Even at rallies, there will lots of standoffs but one day and it will only take one person to pull the trigger and with in seconds they'll all be doing it. It will be like watching a blockbuster movie, it will be live streamed, it will on the news
 
That is the second half of the sentence.
It says :

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

"Well regulated" would be something.

It also predates the abolition of slavery by 74 years, (13th Amendment) so I reckon most slaves probably weren't carrying rifles or it might have ended a bit earlier.

Yes that's true, the right to keep guns was also an important part of keeping slaves or capturing them if they escaped.
 
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That is the second half of the sentence.
It says :

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

"Well regulated" would be something.

It also predates the abolition of slavery by 74 years, (13th Amendment) so I reckon most slaves probably weren't carrying rifles or it might have ended a bit earlier.
The black couple in the photo are not slaves.
They are free modern day Americans,and as such are entitled to keep and bear arms,just as much as any other race/ethnic group.
 
The black couple in the photo are not slaves.
They are free modern day Americans,and as such are entitled to keep and bear arms,just as much as any other race/ethnic group.

I think the problem some of our board/ neighbours/ fellow Human Beings are having is that when Black people decide they are just as free and equal as anyone else, the 'rest of society' loses its shit.

It happened when the Black Panthers decided to arm themselves in plain sight. What was deemed 'normal' got kerbed.

Here's a decent summary on it:

The Price of Safety Article
 
I think the problem some of our board/ neighbours/ fellow Human Beings are having is that when Black people decide they are just as free and equal as anyone else, the 'rest of society' loses its shit.

It happened when the Black Panthers decided to arm themselves in plain sight. What was deemed 'normal' got kerbed.

Here's a decent summary on it:

The Price of Safety Article
Excellent article that Bigga.
Very informative and enlightening.
 
I think the problem some of our board/ neighbours/ fellow Human Beings are having is that when Black people decide they are just as free and equal as anyone else, the 'rest of society' loses its shit.

It happened when the Black Panthers decided to arm themselves in plain sight. What was deemed 'normal' got kerbed.

Here's a decent summary on it:

The Price of Safety Article

Reminded me of this clip I watched a couple of days ago.



It’s delusional to think that more black people having guns will empower them as a group in America. The Black Panther party would never have won an armed struggle, even using guerrilla tactics.

Battle of Little Bighorn, the Sioux defeated Custer with more advanced weaponry, repeater weapons against single round rifles. What followed in subsequent battles that defeated them?

Gatling guns.

Minorities don't win wars of attrition.

Fair enough, if you want to make the argument that they are as much entitled to keep guns against as white people or any other ethnicity. I'm not going to argue against that.

It reminds of when I was at university and someone made the argument that adultery laws should be rolled out equally and not just be applied equally to men as they are on women. Okay, but adultery laws were created for misogynist purposes, it's also a bad law.

You don't make bad laws better by making more people eligible. You get rid of the bad law. Openly carrying around assault rifles is not good for human society.

Unless all African Americans train themselves up to the level of John Wick so they can fight of corrupt cops, more guns for everyone is bad for them. Because they are more likely to experience police brutality that could get them killed, and greater number of guns and lax gun laws have positive correlation with more shootings by cops.

 
Clearly it would seem that some people don't understand the issue.

If you don't make bad laws better by making more people eligible then the strategy is pretty simple and would avoid the off key post if one had read it:

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Pretty simple.

Decades of doing nothing about loose laws have allowed a demographic to, literally, get away with murder. So, up until laws are re-written (or CRT is addressed) then escalation is always coming.

US society needs rebalancing by any means necessary.
 

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