Tony Blair on Nick Robinson's Show

[Cityfan]

I don't understand why investment of £1 in the public sector equals £1.70 and where is the evidence of this? We currently have one of the greatest GDP debts ever

For much of the 18th and 19th century and first half of the 20th century national debt was a far higher proportion of GDP than it is now.

As far as I can see the fiscal multiplier is something that is argued a lot by economists but most agree that its effect and size depends on the current economic circumstances.
I disagree that wealth generation has nothing to do with your bins being taken out a country that cannot keep itself clean and tidy will create less wealth. Even on a simple level like tourism.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Nobody talks about Cameronism or Majorism in the way they talk about Thatcherism and Blairism, with good reason. Cameron and Major were pale shadows of their predecessors, but Thatcher and Blair, for good or evil, distorted the parties they led. I deliberately mean distorted rather than changed, because both leaders were at variances with the ideological underpinnings of their respective parties and while they made profound changes and their legacy lived on long after they left office, they will both be considered aberrations.

Think of a sponge, you can squeeze a sponge and change its shape, but once you let go it returns to its original form. Thatcher and Blair squeezed both their parties like a sponge and shaped them as they wished, but once their grip slipped and now that they're gone, slowly, but surely, their parties are returning to form.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

What constitutes left and right-wing cannot be cast in stone, surely.

 

[happy daze]

Blairs thoughts attached to anything are a massive turn off for so many people,I would suggest he is one of Britains most hated politicians and that says a lot considering the Thatcher years.

It's no use pointing to his past glory because that turned to the emperors new clothes,I must admit when he was first elected I had high hopes which became indifference and eventually hatred.

No if any new party is to come it would be better if it had no association with him at all.

 

[urban genie]

What constitutes left and right-wing cannot be cast in stone, surely.

There are basic priciples, but if for example you take america, some things they consider left leaning is center right here.

Right wing is normally a more conservative, free market, small government idea.

Left is a state supported, economic system or equal distribution and universal free education and healthcare

 

[Damocles]

Blairs thoughts attached to anything are a massive turn off for so many people,I would suggest he is one of Britains most hated politicians and that says a lot considering the Thatcher years.

It's no use pointing to his past glory because that turned to the emperors new clothes,I must admit when he was first elected I had high hopes which became indifference and eventually hatred.

No if any new party is to come it would be better if it had no association with him at all.

You underestimate his popularity.

If Blair was standing against Corbyn and May, he'd probably win another landslide.

 

[happy daze]

You underestimate his popularity.

If Blair was standing against Corbyn and May, he'd probably win another landslide.

You really think so? at a quick glance this is the latest poll I can find and yes a lot has happened in that year and a bit but I wager despite all that his ratings have changed little.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...r-labour-party-general-election-a7721561.html

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

There are basic priciples, but if for example you take america, some things they consider left leaning is center right here.

Right wing is normally a more conservative, free market, small government idea.

Left is a state supported, economic system or equal distribution and universal free education and healthcare

Government spending as a % of GDP went through the roof under New Labour. Not much less than ‘Old Labour’ in the 70s at its peak.

 

[urban genie]

You really think so? at a quick glance this is the latest poll I can find and yes a lot has happened in that year and a bit but I wager despite all that his ratings have changed little.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...r-labour-party-general-election-a7721561.html

People label the corbyn fans as cultish, but the unwavering belief by fans of blair that he is still the man who swept to power in the eyes of the public goes beyond that.

He pissed off his party at membership level, He pissed off vast numbers the public with his insistance of going to war.
He isn't going to grab many staunch tory affection.


A man of his time and he time has been.

 

[urban genie]

Government spending as a % of GDP went through the roof under New Labour. Not much less than ‘Old Labour’ in the 70s at its peak.

And?